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On February 02 2012 06:28 Wombat_NI wrote:
MMA isn't 'far better' than the other players in this group, marginally is a fair assessment though. They're all pretty skillful players, although Puzzle and Oz are a bit hit and miss at times.
Strange that MMA isn't better in the PvT matchup as his drop play is pretty much unrivaled. He also has a ton of weird aggressive builds that can outright win him games if either of the P open too greedily, will be an interesting group for sure.
I suspect it's just lack of practice. For a long time, PvT was either basically non-existent (in GSL at least) or else revolved around trying to 1base your opponent before they 1based you. There was no reason for MMA to practice TvP macro games, and that combined with the lack of truly successful SlayerS Protoss (Puzzle is hit and miss) makes it harder for MMA to get reliable partners.
Also, it's quite hard to have a clear game plan. In TvZ, you want to try and prevent a 3rd base and make marines cost-efficient, kill drones etc. In TvT, depending on which style (bio, mech, biomech) you will have clear objectives. But in TvP, it feels like the objectives are really dependant on the situation and nobody has developed a truly successful "standard" which is elegant enough to hold up as a standard.
I have no idea whether that's a game design issue or not, just my thoughts on the matter.
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MMA is too on fire right now to just Mvp this group.
Him and Supernova!
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Seeker I forgot to mention.
I want to thank you for the work that you put into these. It had been a while since I woke up at 2:00 AM to watch GSL but that's what I found myself doing the night of the Foriegner's Fall from Grace.
I woke up groggy, and not really with it, and to my dismay I saw much had changed since the last time I watched GSL live. Thanks to your OP I was able to get all the dual streams stuff worked out.
So kudos!
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MMA and Puzzle all the way !!!! 
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Seeker trying to create his own curse <3
This is too hard to predict. MMA is bad vP, but not that bad and not with 2 weeks of vP preparation.
Supernova is good but could fall to Puzzle 26 gates push on 2 bases. But Supernova should 111 or variation his way to ro8, that's usually what he does vP. Puzzle better include a robo in his builds :D
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On February 02 2012 06:38 TheDougler wrote:
Seeker I forgot to mention.
I want to thank you for the work that you put into these. It had been a while since I woke up at 2:00 AM to watch GSL but that's what I found myself doing the night of the Foriegner's Fall from Grace.
I woke up groggy, and not really with it, and to my dismay I saw much had changed since the last time I watched GSL live. Thanks to your OP I was able to get all the dual streams stuff worked out.
So kudos!
 Wow. Thank you for these kind words. I'll keep working harder!
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On February 02 2012 06:42 MrCon wrote:
Seeker trying to create his own curse <3
This is too hard to predict. MMA is bad vP, but not that bad and not with 2 weeks of vP preparation.
Supernova is good but could fall to Puzzle 26 gates push on 2 bases. But Supernova should 111 or variation his way to ro8, that's usually what he does vP. Puzzle better include a robo in his builds :D
Gah.....
But that wasn't my intention though u know? :/
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United States97276 Posts
This is going to be a really fun group to watch
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MMA and SuperNoVa. MMA is just too good and SuperNoVa with around 70% vP is just a beast in this group.
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On February 02 2012 06:50 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 06:42 MrCon wrote:
Seeker trying to create his own curse <3
This is too hard to predict. MMA is bad vP, but not that bad and not with 2 weeks of vP preparation.
Supernova is good but could fall to Puzzle 26 gates push on 2 bases. But Supernova should 111 or variation his way to ro8, that's usually what he does vP. Puzzle better include a robo in his builds :D
Gah..... But that wasn't my intention though u know? :/
Lies ! :D
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Well, so far Supernova is leading the polls.
When he is not underrated anymore, time to fail  .
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
Fionn said MMA and Oz will advance
Go Supernova and Puzzle!
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MMA hasn't lost a set yet this season (including gstl, counting his 3-0 as a set) I am very surprised people still say his vP is weak, his last high level vP since he beat Oz in GSTL was when he lost 2-3 to Oz in GSL November ( he did play Nani, but I'm not counting that )
MMA and SuperNoVa eZ, Oz is good, but i can't see him beating either of those players.
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On February 02 2012 06:25 Kazuki wrote:
Looking forward to the moment when MMA will crush his group. Again.
MMA is damn good, but these other guys are pretty scary too.
MMA and ??? will advance imo. Oz or Supernova, slightly towards Supernova.
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United States1035 Posts
On February 02 2012 07:06 xi Tempest x wrote:MMA hasn't lost a set yet this season (including gstl, counting his 3-0 as a set) I am very surprised people still say his vP is weak, his last high level vP since he beat Oz in GSTL was when he lost 2-3 to Oz in GSL November ( he did play Nani, but I'm not counting that ) MMA and SuperNoVa eZ, Oz is good, but i can't see him beating either of those players.
Huge fan of MMA, but his vP is easily below his other strings. Hopefully he can take out Oz first game, and be fine against Supernova (Seriously though, who beats MMA in TvT aside from Polt?). His vP tends to be a bit more all in than the other styles.
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On February 02 2012 07:20 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 07:06 xi Tempest x wrote:MMA hasn't lost a set yet this season (including gstl, counting his 3-0 as a set) I am very surprised people still say his vP is weak, his last high level vP since he beat Oz in GSTL was when he lost 2-3 to Oz in GSL November ( he did play Nani, but I'm not counting that ) MMA and SuperNoVa eZ, Oz is good, but i can't see him beating either of those players. Huge fan of MMA, but his vP is easily below his other strings. Hopefully he can take out Oz first game, and be fine against Supernova (Seriously though, who beats MMA in TvT aside from Polt?). His vP tends to be a bit more all in than the other styles.
SuperNova is a beast. Really really scary player right now
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I really want to see MMA vs SN tomorrow. This is like the hottest possible starcraft 2 match at the moment.
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Damn, dat stackage in this group. I hope one P gets through (Oz mostly; for some reason I think Puzzle is going to get destroyed today x.x), but never underestimate the power of GomTvT. Supernova and MMA likely to advance but not without a good fight.
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