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War of the Roses - EG.DeMuslim vs d.BlinG - £1000 - Page 45

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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 21:22:28
January 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#881
On January 31 2012 06:17 nvrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


a) dont do 1 rax FE, it's so easyli punishable its not worth it (imo)
b) 5 to 6 (that's right 6) bunkers, properly positioned.
Of course if you are to get 6 bunkers you might as well not FE.

scouting is very important here but you cant always scout it

GM/Pro Terran are you? What would you do if you wanted to play a macro game wise one?

Edit: Lol, just read the whole post, and not just the first line...
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#882
On January 31 2012 06:17 nvrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


a) dont do 1 rax FE, it's so easyli punishable its not worth it (imo)
b) 5 to 6 (that's right 6) bunkers, properly positioned.
Of course if you are to get 6 bunkers you might as well not FE.

scouting is very important here but you cant always scout it


wait WHAT? dude, 1 rax FE is standard because anything else puts you behind with the current metagame, and 5 to 6 bunkers will cost you 500 minerals which you can't afford without a 1 rax FE...even then you just dropped 500minerals in bunkers so you can't have enough units out to fill them...what?
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
January 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#883
On January 31 2012 06:18 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:14 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


Pull all scvs from natural and try to get surround on his army so he cant ff you off, stim and pray it works. Staying on natural near bunkers is win for protoss. Or you can go back and forth making him use ff's, once they are out just stim and kill him but good protoss wont waste em.


Still sound pretty damn hard to hold.


Theres a really good game between Keen and MC where Keen holds it with fast ghosts. But even then its close and he literally emp's everyone of MC's sentries.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
January 30 2012 21:22 GMT
#884
On January 31 2012 05:59 Azhrei16 wrote:
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On January 31 2012 05:56 ftd.rain wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:48 Azhrei16 wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:46 ftd.rain wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:38 Azhrei16 wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:33 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:33 Azhrei16 wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:32 Bagration wrote:
On January 31 2012 05:31 Azhrei16 wrote:
DeMusliM must be forgetting that Terran has access to Marines. They're good.


Not when you sit in storms they arent!


True, but regardless of storms, having a ton of Marines is much better than having a ton of Marauders. A Raven with Seeker Missile to wipe out large groups of Zealots would have been real sexy XD


Feedback


We can go back and forth all day on "this counters this so he should have done this" but the fact remains, yes, Bling has access to Feedback but most of his templars were in a warp prism. A few ravens coming out of nowhere with Seeker Missiles aren't going to instantly get blasted down in most instances. DeMusliM is just making horrible choices and Bling is outcontrolling him badly. Need to have Vikings on the Prism, or if he would have had the mass amount of Marines they would have shot it down within half a second. Or even have missile turrets near the planetary... so many options.

Teching to ravens costs a lot and seekers missiles do friendly fire, put them together with chargealots and you are helping your enemy.


I don't care about excuses like "oh teching to them costs a lot" blah blah. Try and be creative, doing the same damn stuff over and over isn't going to help you win for very long. The players that decide to take it upon themselves to be creative, try new things, and just overall work hard to improve aspects of their play are the ones that dominate. As we can see in these games.

put them together with chargealots and you are helping your enemy. Nice selective reading, sir.


It's not called selective reading, it's called ignoring a stupid comment. You can wait until the Zealots charge is on cooldown then micro your Marines away from them. You can build two Marines at once, Zealots cost more than Marines. Seriously, stop being so single minded. Just because Chargelots MIGHT cause the Seeker Missiles to deal splash to the Marines, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it or try it out. Sheeth.

Instead of calling people stupid and suggesting your low level ideas, try to think if they will actually work, the seeker missiles will do mininum damage to the zealots while the majority of your marines die, that is if you manage to emp all of the hts , there's a reason they aren't used, and it's not because competitive sc2 lacks a genius like you.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
January 30 2012 21:22 GMT
#885
On January 31 2012 06:20 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:17 nvrs wrote:
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


a) dont do 1 rax FE, it's so easyli punishable its not worth it (imo)
b) 5 to 6 (that's right 6) bunkers, properly positioned.
Of course if you are to get 6 bunkers you might as well not FE.

scouting is very important here but you cant always scout it

GM/Pro Terran are you? What would you do if you wanted to play a macro game wise one?

Edit: Lol, just read the whole post, and not just the first line.


either this is serios trolling or actually someone who doesn't ladder at all but thinks he has all the builds figured out
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
January 30 2012 21:22 GMT
#886
On January 31 2012 06:20 KicKDoG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:14 dragonborn wrote:
DeMusliM is like Destiny or CatZ,he is overrated.(Actually destiny and catz lately doing well.)

i hope SlayerS house helps him.


Nah i don't think Demuslim is overrated at all. "IF" Demuslim loses this serie does that make him bad? BlinG is a very good player. But if Demuslim wins and comes back in the serie. You will say "ohh i was wrong" hm...

DemusliM was so much better than this.

He is getting worse and worse.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
January 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#887
Totalbiscuit is on complete form today. Loving the series and the casting :D
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
January 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#888
On January 31 2012 06:18 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:14 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


Pull all scvs from natural and try to get surround on his army so he cant ff you off, stim and pray it works. Staying on natural near bunkers is win for protoss. Or you can go back and forth making him use ff's, once they are out just stim and kill him but good protoss wont waste em.


Still sound pretty damn hard to hold.


In my opinion: Do not build any bunkers (salvage any that you have). Use the minerals saves from bunkers to make extra barracks and just make as many marines as possible. Against immortal/sentry, I think a bunker is worth less than an extra marine.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
January 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#889
probably should be moved into strategy discussion, but you still can't hold immortal rush even if you stay 1 gas and quickly go up to 3-4 rax after the expo?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 21:23:38
January 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#890
One good thing to do is to load your bunkers with only one marine each, so that the first forcefield +guardian shield set will be wasted for 2 marines + 2 bunkers.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#891
lmfao idra's grooveshark playlist
The Show of a Lifetime
nvrs
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece481 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#892
On January 31 2012 06:18 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:17 nvrs wrote:
On January 31 2012 06:12 mengsk83 wrote:
im a zerg player so please bear with me, but what would be the tactic of choice for a terran against this immortal push?


a) dont do 1 rax FE, it's so easyli punishable its not worth it (imo)
b) 5 to 6 (that's right 6) bunkers, properly positioned.
Of course if you are to get 6 bunkers you might as well not FE.

scouting is very important here but you cant always scout it

why do you give bad advice?


i did it on purpose, sorry i will never do it again :/
Huckleuro
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#893
Liven up apolla.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#894
lol TB with Idra´s stream music diss, just gotta love that guy :D
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#895
On January 31 2012 06:23 ComusLoM wrote:
Totalbiscuit is on complete form today. Loving the series and the casting :D


He's doing it for Mother England. Britannia powers him!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#896
"Well apparently the stream sounded like Idra's Grooveshark playlist" That's good one
ㅈㅈ
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#897
Do you guys know HOW good DeMusliM was at one point?

Back in 2011, I saw him get #1 GM on NA and EU, he played people like Stephano (no disrespect to Stephano) and he made me think Stephano was someone not special. That's how much DeMu owned people.
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
DerFlorist
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany50 Posts
January 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#898
On January 31 2012 06:22 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 06:20 KicKDoG wrote:
On January 31 2012 06:14 dragonborn wrote:
DeMusliM is like Destiny or CatZ,he is overrated.(Actually destiny and catz lately doing well.)

i hope SlayerS house helps him.


Nah i don't think Demuslim is overrated at all. "IF" Demuslim loses this serie does that make him bad? BlinG is a very good player. But if Demuslim wins and comes back in the serie. You will say "ohh i was wrong" hm...

DemusliM was so much better than this.

He is getting worse and worse.

+1

User was warned for this post
hagga
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden219 Posts
January 30 2012 21:25 GMT
#899
TB is a boss
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
January 30 2012 21:25 GMT
#900
EXCELLENT SUGGESTION

PLEASE GO MASS CARRIERS
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