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gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 21:43:12
January 19 2012 21:42 GMT
#2661
On January 20 2012 06:39 Pippi wrote:
Naniwa was the only one who really got mad, and people got really upset about it and not the tournament. But when we don't see other players reacting so strong, people find the tournament garbage =/

I thought that people were angry about him "forfeitting" the tournament because of it, but then it got resolved I guess? Either way, it sucks for everyone so let's not try to start arguments.
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
January 19 2012 21:42 GMT
#2662
ok the first day was a joke, at least hope for some better games tomorrow, please do something with this pc's work all the night if you have to ( if the problem is actually with the pc's ), if it's a b.net 2.0 issue then go and trow a granade at blizzard's central office
Power is nothing without control
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
January 19 2012 21:43 GMT
#2663
On January 20 2012 06:37 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Too many variables to consider to justify making a regame. Yes he blinked under the broods, yes he was targetting some of them, but who's to say he wouldn't have botched his control and misclicked? Or Zenio loses his army but claws his way back in? It's a pity for Nightend, but it would be unfair on Zenio as well

On another point, why do Koreans play so much worse at IEMs than almost every other tournament out there? Zenio is playing half as good as he was in Code S (which still wasn't his best), JYP did pretty badly at the Changzhou [sic] tournament etc


Zenio's playing pretty close to how he plays in GSL.

He played a few bad sets there, but also some pretty good ones. I am not some high-level analyst but his play here thus far has been far, far below what we've seen from him before.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
January 19 2012 21:43 GMT
#2664
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


i like this post
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
January 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#2665
Gotta love Nani man, think he's going to take this tournament actually, but we'll have to wait and see.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
January 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#2666
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


*slow clap*

And that's why your fans love you.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
January 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#2667
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.
I love crazymoving
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 21:46 GMT
#2668
On January 20 2012 06:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:37 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Too many variables to consider to justify making a regame. Yes he blinked under the broods, yes he was targetting some of them, but who's to say he wouldn't have botched his control and misclicked? Or Zenio loses his army but claws his way back in? It's a pity for Nightend, but it would be unfair on Zenio as well

On another point, why do Koreans play so much worse at IEMs than almost every other tournament out there? Zenio is playing half as good as he was in Code S (which still wasn't his best), JYP did pretty badly at the Changzhou [sic] tournament etc


Zenio's playing pretty close to how he plays in GSL.

He played a few bad sets there, but also some pretty good ones. I am not some high-level analyst but his play here thus far has been far, far below what we've seen from him before.

I don't think so personally. His games today remind me of his play from code A matches, up n downs and code S.
nicotn
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands186 Posts
January 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#2669
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


And this is exactly why you are a winner.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#2670
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit
SaSe fan club manager
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 21:55:49
January 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#2671
On January 19 2012 21:48 GodOfWar wrote:
placed my bets. gl to me ;p

Naniwa 2-0 Strelok @ 25 EUR
White-Ra 2-1 / 2-0 Strelok @ 50 EUR
Grubby 1-2 / 0-2 Kas @ 50 EUR
Kas 2-1 / 2-0 NightEnd @ 75 EUR
+ Kas 2-0 Nightend @ 25 EUR
Kas 2-1 / 2-0 Zenio @ 25 EUR (very good quote and Kas is really a beast atm)


looks like I was successful here ;p

only lost two of my lower bets

and tomorrows groups are even much easier
Mvp Moon Squirtle
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#2672
On January 20 2012 06:47 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit

Sure doesn't sound biased at all lol
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#2673
On January 20 2012 06:42 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:39 Pippi wrote:
Naniwa was the only one who really got mad, and people got really upset about it and not the tournament. But when we don't see other players reacting so strong, people find the tournament garbage =/

I thought that people were angry about him "forfeitting" the tournament because of it, but then it got resolved I guess? Either way, it sucks for everyone so let's not try to start arguments.

Some interview is going around, apparently Naniwa's computer has issues as well and he was experiencing far worse lag than anyone else.
From some link I found on reddit:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/413184-IEM_6_Kiev_RotterdaM_on_all_4_groups
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#2674
On January 20 2012 06:49 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:47 Choboo wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit

Sure doesn't sound biased at all lol

Do I have some sort of obligation to not be biased?
SaSe fan club manager
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 21:50 GMT
#2675
On January 20 2012 06:49 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:49 gullberg wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:47 Choboo wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit

Sure doesn't sound biased at all lol

Do I have some sort of obligation to not be biased?

Am I saying that?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
January 19 2012 21:50 GMT
#2676
Incidentally, I missed some of the early stages and now feel silly for buying into some of the Titan hype, at least looking at his results. How'd he actually play?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 19 2012 21:50 GMT
#2677
On January 20 2012 06:50 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:49 Choboo wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:49 gullberg wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:47 Choboo wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit

Sure doesn't sound biased at all lol

Do I have some sort of obligation to not be biased?

Am I saying that?

No am I saying that you were saying that?
SaSe fan club manager
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#2678
wow kas is playing really well =D
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#2679
On January 20 2012 06:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Incidentally, I missed some of the early stages and now feel silly for buying into some of the Titan hype, at least looking at his results. How'd he actually play?

TITAN played really well vs. Naniwa which was the only series I saw with him, really solid play and I think he got great potential
SaSe fan club manager
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
January 19 2012 21:53 GMT
#2680
On January 20 2012 06:47 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
wait sorry, what exactly happened with naniwa? I missed the first group.

The lag has been really bad the whole day and for example Nightend didn't go though his group because of it. Naniwa got mad after losing his first match vs Strelok because of the lag and said he would forfeit the tournament but he later got it together and went into beast mode and just crushed WhiteRa and TITAN thus getting first in his group. All his haters are mad as fuck right now because they got so happy when he said he would forfeit


Did he say the bolded part verbatim? The only source I seen was the twitter from IEM..
Seohyun fan
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