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Iron Lady Showmatch: ST.Aphrodite vs Quantic.Flo - Page 8

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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 29 2012 04:25 GMT
#141
so bored and lonely, my korean gf finished her management degree and moved back to korea in december

one sided series but interesting to watch.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 29 2012 04:26 GMT
#142
On January 29 2012 13:24 devPLEASE wrote:
I am not trying to flame Moletrap, maybe it's the sound quality, but I honestly can not tell the difference between Navi's and Moletrap's voice.

they also seem oddly unenthusiastic. even comparing moletrap khaldor casting vs this seems to be a couple of levels in interest/intensity.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:28:19
January 29 2012 04:27 GMT
#143
Aphrodite's base is secured by three tanks at natural.

Flo goes go third CC
Aphrodite takes quick third.

Aphrodite goes to blue flame hellion drop.
Flo out on map.

Flo loses 7 SCVs and forgets to push with her force that's out on the map.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 29 2012 04:27 GMT
#144
On January 29 2012 13:22 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:22 awu25 wrote:
Why is Cheekyduck's stream listed under this event? Sat on her stream for like 30 min waiting for a match to start


She fraudulently did that, took forever for admins to respond -_-....


Were there any repercussions? That's really scummy.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:33:33
January 29 2012 04:29 GMT
#145
Flo pushes Aphrodites front.
Drops units on tanks and takes them out.
Does damage to Aphrodite's natural and retreats.
Flo takes forth.

--

Both going for drops.
Flo holds Aphrodite's drop.
Aphrodite drops Flo's third and takes out some SCVs.

Flo's drop takes place in Aphrodite's main and attack's Aphrodite's third.

--
Flo slight supply and eco lead.

--

Current Compositions:
Flo: Marauder Medivac with a Dash of Vikings
Aphrodite: Viking tanks.

--

Flo prepares drop, but aphrodite sees it with own medivac.

--

Aphrodite sends vikings and kill three full medivacs.

--

Aphrodite pushes.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 29 2012 04:33 GMT
#146
"aphrodite is kind of turtling" ya...its called playing mech...come on moletrap, you have to call out stuff like that with your code A watching ways.
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
January 29 2012 04:33 GMT
#147
Seems like Flo is just running through the motions of what to do against Mech, but she can't really do it all at once. She should have huge leads, but her macro just keeps her even or behind. What's the point of expanding everywhere if you can't can't take advantage of having all those bases?
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:35:01
January 29 2012 04:34 GMT
#148
Flo loses battle.

Supply is 150 to 127 Aphrodite leading

---

Aphrodite is at flo's natural with all her tanks

Flo GGs.

Aphrodite wins 4-0
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 29 2012 04:35 GMT
#149
On January 29 2012 13:33 Sub40APM wrote:
"aphrodite is kind of turtling" ya...its called playing mech...come on moletrap, you have to call out stuff like that with your code A watching ways.


Nobody in Code A goes mech though.
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
January 29 2012 04:35 GMT
#150
little dissapointing. i wish flo made some tanks to accompany her bio at least. :/ gg aphrodite
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:38:10
January 29 2012 04:35 GMT
#151
GoOdy himself would have been proud about all the tanks. Well done, Aphrodite
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
January 29 2012 04:36 GMT
#152
This series just emphasized that flo isn't really at a decent progamer level to compete among the best of them.

Still questioning Quantic's decision to take her up.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
January 29 2012 04:36 GMT
#153
Wow, even Korean female players dominating the female scene?

Flo played great, but Aphrodite just capitalized on everything.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 29 2012 04:36 GMT
#154
On January 29 2012 13:35 devPLEASE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:33 Sub40APM wrote:
"aphrodite is kind of turtling" ya...its called playing mech...come on moletrap, you have to call out stuff like that with your code A watching ways.


Nobody in Code A goes mech though.

I meant that in terms of moletrap watches a lot of high end starcraft and maybe navi doesnt so its up to him to explain why 'turtling' is the only way to play mech vs bio.

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46137 Posts
January 29 2012 04:36 GMT
#155
Congratulations to

+ Show Spoiler +
Aphrodite!!! 4-0
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 29 2012 04:41 GMT
#156
Congrats to the winner!

Seriously, I wish we could have seen her at more minor tournaments to see how well she fares against other progamers. It would have been cool to see her at + Show Spoiler +
the ONOG invite.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
January 29 2012 04:41 GMT
#157
On January 29 2012 13:36 SniperVul5 wrote:
This series just emphasized that flo isn't really at a decent progamer level to compete among the best of them.

Still questioning Quantic's decision to take her up.


Give her time, but she definitely might want to reevaluate her practicing methods. Aphrodite should get some credit, she definitely has good macro and micro, plus her decision making is great, especially for someone that hasn't ever played an RTS until a couple of months ago. She's definitely got potential to get far and she's still pretty young.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:45:43
January 29 2012 04:45 GMT
#158
On January 29 2012 13:36 SniperVul5 wrote:
This series just emphasized that flo isn't really at a decent progamer level to compete among the best of them.

Still questioning Quantic's decision to take her up.


It wasn't bad at all, honestly. She had a small lead at some portions of the games she played, and she should have probably won that proxy-marauder game but it looks like she forgot concussive? Or just didn't micro well enough that game either.

I think the problem is she just did not know how to handle Mech-play to well later on in the game.

Besides that... Aphrodite is good. Her mech play is not bad at all, as one can expect when you have Rainbow/ST to learn from :o.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
January 29 2012 04:51 GMT
#159
On January 29 2012 13:41 LeaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 13:36 SniperVul5 wrote:
This series just emphasized that flo isn't really at a decent progamer level to compete among the best of them.

Still questioning Quantic's decision to take her up.


Give her time, but she definitely might want to reevaluate her practicing methods. Aphrodite should get some credit, she definitely has good macro and micro, plus her decision making is great, especially for someone that hasn't ever played an RTS until a couple of months ago. She's definitely got potential to get far and she's still pretty young.


I agree with you that perhaps she can become better in time... and that Aphrodite did play well given the circumstances but there is still lots of questionable decision making in flos play against mech. Usually against mech its important to get a strong concave and to catch the tanks unsieged by any means necessary. This usually includes flanking or just pulling back in and out to delay the push. The game on Shattered temple showed that she mostly just attacks... dies, backs off and as a result cant stop the mech train from getting to her base. I thought she definitely needed improved maneuverability in that regard. Another thing is to split up some of the units instead of having the one bio ball so that she can get a surround more efficiently...even to catch some of the back tanks as it is sieging up. These are things bio have to do against mech to be even remotely successful and we just did not see that at all.

The game with the three dropship drops were also questionnable. Moletrap was saying how they did a lot of damage (derp moletrap and your finite wisdom) but in all honesty that did not do a lot given the loss of three dropships worth of units along with the dropships themselves. The second attempt also showed she has lapses in concentration... forgetting where the dropships were and not moving them until they get sniped. Even so... was there even an advantage to using three dropships at one area? Why not two in the main and one at the natural... or even so one on each base (though for the third the drop has to edge away from the defensive tanks). Once again it just emphasizes she has a long long way to go before she can even have a chance in competing at a high level.
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
January 29 2012 04:52 GMT
#160
Replays can be found here:
http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/ironlady/showmatch1/match/25090522/

Vod will be posted tomorrow!
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