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SHOUTcraft Invitational 4 - "Colin Smith" - Page 8
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Gropah
Netherlands58 Posts
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tabbott26
United Kingdom379 Posts
On January 10 2012 04:35 Jayjay54 wrote: great lineup. we need goody though. Do you really want the tournament to go on for three extra days?? | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On January 10 2012 04:20 Mordiford wrote: I like the comeback bounty idea and this does help with "meaningless matches", I'm just wondering if there is any way that the rest of the format can result in a Stephano/BratOK situation, where a player may want to actively lose a match once they're already guaranteed qualification so that they get a lower seed to avoid a specific player. I'm trying to sort it out in my head and I can think of maybe one situation where this could occur in the format though I may certainly be wrong and perhaps the way the games are scheduled will sort this out. I just feel that a player should obviously never be in a situation where losing can be more beneficial than winning, not sure if this could occur or not in this tournament format. Once again though, cheers on a great tournament with a solid prize pool. I'm also really happy with the first two invites, good job. Honestly, I don't think that's ever the players fault to throw a match when it legitimately benefits them to lose a match.. not sure how it could be solved though. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On January 10 2012 04:48 Pokebunny wrote: Honestly, I don't think that's ever the players fault to throw a match when it legitimately benefits them to lose a match.. not sure how it could be solved though. The only way to avoid this as far as I know is to run both matches at the same time, something we can't do. I doubt this will be an issue in our tournament, since players are also playing for tips as well as wins. You don't encourage viewers to tip you if you throw games. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On January 10 2012 04:48 Pokebunny wrote: Honestly, I don't think that's ever the players fault to throw a match when it legitimately benefits them to lose a match.. not sure how it could be solved though. I agree it's not the player's fault. This is something that should be sorted out within the tournament format. I don't really think Stephano or BratOK are particularly at fault for their incident because the tournament they were playing in put them in a position where they had a better chance at winning the tournament if they lost their games. A player should want to win all their games in an ideal situation, they should be expected to try their best even if there isn't that much to gain(particularly if they are being paid simply for participating) but if they're put in a situation where they could benefit from losing due to the format of the tournament, I don't think it's their fault for throwing. On January 10 2012 05:03 TotalBiscuit wrote: The only way to avoid this as far as I know is to run both matches at the same time, something we can't do. I doubt this will be an issue in our tournament, since players are also playing for tips as well as wins. You don't encourage viewers to tip you if you throw games. I understand that playing both groups at the same time is not feasible, another alternative, and one to consider in the future may be having a separate small prize for winning your group. In this manner, throwing a game to get an opponent you're more comfortable against, would cost you a potential 50-150 dollars. This would force players to weight their options much more carefully, a confirmed bonus for winning, or a potentially easier opponent that they could still lose to. The tips should help in this situation regardless, but I don't know if I would personally withhold tipping a player myself if they threw a game so they could have a better chance at the whole tournament, I'd probably be understanding to why they did it. | ||
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SwampyNZ
New Zealand47 Posts
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
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Vento7
Brazil45 Posts
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panazoix
Sweden7 Posts
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LlOoKkIi
Korea (South)473 Posts
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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SelfIgnition
Poland9 Posts
he is a great EU player and would really entertain us a lot | ||
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xdarestx
Finland3 Posts
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ASUS_Kinc
Sweden19 Posts
Thorzain <3 (biased by nationality) | ||
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Ireniicus
United Kingdom374 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Oww
Poland12 Posts
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
On January 10 2012 06:53 Yonnua wrote: Hoping for a Thorzain / Incontrol grudge match. :D I doubt with the bad blood between the two that TB would invite Incontrol, and if he did (to be the better man as it were) Incontrol would decline. I'm a fan of both, don't get me wrong, but there seems to be enough issues between the two that they'd, by choice, try to steer clear of each other. Which makes me sad, because I think TB on SotG would be awesome. | ||
InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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