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Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
January 10 2012 14:52 GMT
#181
On January 10 2012 08:51 lavit2099 wrote:
SCI3 was the "viewer's choice" type of thing, that's why White-Ra was there. I don't see him making an appearance. While he's a great player, he rarely performs great in tournaments. Sort of like Destiny.

That being said, this being a "serious" tournament (and not the viewer's choice that 3 was), I wouldn't be against seeing a "struggling player" tossed in for a hope to shine. Like Tyler.


White-Ra has a lot of 1st places and great performances in major tournaments. No big wins in the recent months but I am sure he will come back as he did some time ago. His recent show matches against kas, nerchio and TLO show how strong he is currently. Unfortunate that we didn't see him in Homestory cup
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
January 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#182
What happened between TB and Incontrol? Was this the comments made on the Home Story cup?
Luppa <3
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 15:19:35
January 10 2012 15:09 GMT
#183
On January 10 2012 09:18 iNcontroL wrote:
Apologize for an opinion? Interesting. GL with these anyways! I tune in each time, they rock an you're doing great




How about apologising for saying he uses a "fake" voice for casting based on second hand information (being as you have never actually met him). Somehow i don’t think you can put on a fake voice for 14 hour long casting sessions and you can see videos on his channel from 5 years ago and his voice sounds the same.

You also know for a fact that his main source of income is his main youtube channel which has zero starcraft 2 content (most of his subscribers to that channel don’t give a flying fuck about SC2). So to say he got into SC2 for "e-monies" is wrong, no? Yet you persist inferring that he only got into SC2 for money reasons when he puts the miniscule amounts he makes from SC2 (compared to his main channel) back into SC2. Explain the logic behind that "opinion"? He could make much more money if he concentrated on putting content on his main channel and forgot about SC2 entirely. Maybe he simply enjoys casting, ever thought about that?

If e-sports is to grow and be taken seriously by the general public I don’t think figureheads of the scene should make Inflammatory comments about other figureheads that have zero basis in fact but seems you love all the drama alas...
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
January 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#184
On January 11 2012 00:09 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:18 iNcontroL wrote:
Apologize for an opinion? Interesting. GL with these anyways! I tune in each time, they rock an you're doing great



How about appologising for saying he uses a "fake" voice for casting based on second hand information (being as you have never actually met him). Somehow i dont think you can put on a fake voice for 14 hour long casting sessions and you can see videos on his channel from 5 years ago and his voice sounds the same.

You also know for a fact that his main source of income is his main youtube channel which has zero starcraft 2 content (most of his subscribers to that channel dont give a flying fuck about SC2). So to say he got into SC2 for "e-monies" is wrong, no? Yet you persist inferring that he only got into SC2 for money reasons when he puts the miniscule amounts he makes from SC2 (compared to his main channel) back into SC2. Explain the logic behind that "opinion"? He could make much more money if he concentrated on putting content on his main channel and forgot about SC2 entirely. Maybe he simply enjoys casting, ever thought about that?

If e-sports is to grow and be taken seriously by the general public I dont think figureheads of the scene should make Inflammatory comments about other figureheads that have zero basis in fact but seems you love all the drama alas...

If this is true then Incontrol is a douchebag.
Holy check.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 15:40:52
January 10 2012 15:29 GMT
#185
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#186
Disregard irrelevant drama, acquire monstrous players.

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CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
January 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#187
On January 10 2012 08:51 lavit2099 wrote:
I don't see him making an appearance. While he's a great player, he rarely performs great in tournaments. Sort of like Destiny.


Personally I disagree, if you check out his liquipedia page it shows he's one of the most consistent pros out there, and that's just for the premier tournaments. He's scooped a tonne of top-spots in minor tournaments, not to mention gold in IPL2. I do agree with you though in that it's unlikely we'll see him in this invitational.


On January 11 2012 00:09 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:18 iNcontroL wrote:
Apologize for an opinion? Interesting. GL with these anyways! I tune in each time, they rock an you're doing great


- TB Incontrol drama -


I don’t want to sound preachy but maybe we could let this lie before it all blows up (again) guys? Seriously every SCi topic this same issue gets brought up, the same shit gets stired and quite frankly it’s getting old.
BronzeBas
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands76 Posts
January 10 2012 15:34 GMT
#188
Awww yeah, HSC IV rematches ^^
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
January 10 2012 15:41 GMT
#189
Great players so far! Hopefully I can watch everything
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
January 10 2012 15:41 GMT
#190
wow awesome invites so far
no matter who the other 4 are, this is going to be awesome!
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
January 10 2012 15:44 GMT
#191
On January 11 2012 00:09 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:18 iNcontroL wrote:
Apologize for an opinion? Interesting. GL with these anyways! I tune in each time, they rock an you're doing great




How about apologising for saying he uses a "fake" voice for casting based on second hand information (being as you have never actually met him). Somehow i don’t think you can put on a fake voice for 14 hour long casting sessions and you can see videos on his channel from 5 years ago and his voice sounds the same.

You also know for a fact that his main source of income is his main youtube channel which has zero starcraft 2 content (most of his subscribers to that channel don’t give a flying fuck about SC2). So to say he got into SC2 for "e-monies" is wrong, no? Yet you persist inferring that he only got into SC2 for money reasons when he puts the miniscule amounts he makes from SC2 (compared to his main channel) back into SC2. Explain the logic behind that "opinion"? He could make much more money if he concentrated on putting content on his main channel and forgot about SC2 entirely. Maybe he simply enjoys casting, ever thought about that?

If e-sports is to grow and be taken seriously by the general public I don’t think figureheads of the scene should make Inflammatory comments about other figureheads that have zero basis in fact but seems you love all the drama alas...


Agreed well said, short memory syndrome here!!!
Chill Winston......
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
January 10 2012 15:44 GMT
#192
On January 11 2012 00:30 Greendotz wrote:

I don’t want to sound preachy but maybe we could let this lie before it all blows up (again) guys? Seriously every SCi topic this same issue gets brought up, the same shit gets stired and quite frankly it’s getting old.


Agreed, but both seem to get alot of hate from Incontrol/TB superfans and I wish that wasnt the case. If a simple apology ended that (which i feel TB warrants) and we can finally put this nonsense to bed, that would be great, oh well...

Anyway, great pick TB. Darkforce impressed me alot at HSC. Shaping up to be a great tournament

fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
January 10 2012 15:51 GMT
#193
great players up to now. players i want to see who are in na or Europe now are kas,demuslim,titian and beastyqt all of them are beasts
Ditone
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore22 Posts
January 10 2012 15:54 GMT
#194
Awwww yeah... Socke comin in to tear this apart :D
Perfection is a human impossibility. Losing doesn't matter (ish). More gg, more skill :D
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
January 10 2012 15:54 GMT
#195
Sick lineup thus far, TB, but not quite as sick as that logo of Grubby's. That's pretty damned baller.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 10 2012 15:54 GMT
#196
4 awesome players so far! Thanks TB for doing this!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 16:16:49
January 10 2012 15:55 GMT
#197
I am seeing a pattern! All of them played in the Homestory Cup!

Personally, I would like to wrong simply because I want to surprised but if I'm right then I call dibs on "I called it".
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 10 2012 15:56 GMT
#198
On January 11 2012 00:55 [17]Purple wrote:
I am seeing a pattern! All of them played in the Homstory Cup!

Personally, I would like to wrong simply because I want to surprised but if I'm right then I call dibs on "I called it".


This doesn't really narrow it down since most of Europe played in HSC
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 10 2012 15:59 GMT
#199
Mana please! <3
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
scruffeh
Profile Joined November 2010
England196 Posts
January 10 2012 16:09 GMT
#200
On January 11 2012 00:59 LittLeD wrote:
Mana please! <3


Ah yeah. Was trying to think of the top players in Europe that weren't at HSC, excluding White-Ra and Demuslim. Had the Empire Terrans, ToD, but had forgotten about Mana. He would be excellent
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