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4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#3101
On January 16 2012 05:51 windsupernova wrote:
Stephano´s ZvT is ridiculous. I don´t get how can people balance whine about ZvT after seeing games like this where Stephano wins so convincingly.

Poor Tzain but it seems he needs to reevaluate his TvZ.

Well statisticly I think tvz is Zerg favoured and quite alot zerg favoured in europe because the race is easyer to play at this level overall. But this is teamliquid so people whine about everything and especialy terran, its hard to tell whats balanced and whats not

Dont think imbalance played a role here though, stephano is playing better atm.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 20:56:11
January 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#3102
It was Alive tore that ling-only style apart at IPL3 with a marine/tank elevator wasn't it?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 20:56:19
January 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#3103
stephano too good
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#3104
B R ?
Build roaches ?

I feel i'm missing something.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
January 15 2012 20:55 GMT
#3105
what did stephano say "be a" ?
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
January 15 2012 20:56 GMT
#3106
Last time they fought in the MSI pro cup, that chat was like this :

Stephano : Hi Thorzain, best terran in Europe !
Thorzain : Hi Stephano...Zerg.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 15 2012 20:56 GMT
#3107
On January 16 2012 05:52 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:49 Asha` wrote:
Looks like the quest for a foreign Terran to win a somewhat notable tournament is going to have to continue =(

GG Steph playing so well.


Don´t worry T has the Koreans repping them and repping them good.

E: Wasn´t the last Foreign T notable win TSL3? I don´t remember a foreign T champion from any notable tourney wow


Depends on what you count as notable.

If you count this one, Kas won the TwitchTV Invitational on christmas eve.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 20:58:02
January 15 2012 20:56 GMT
#3108
On January 16 2012 05:53 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:52 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:50 Garnet wrote:
IPL3 and ESWC are actually the only major tournaments Stephano has won.


Nop he won IPL 4 UK qualifier also and won another 10k there but it got overshadowed by MLG so no1 knew about it


Not a major tournament.


He won 10k for first and it had an amazingly stacked line up.

I guess major tournaments are only IPL3, MLG's since Columbus (even if the IPL quali he won had more money than a normal MLG), and the GSL?
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
January 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#3109
Pretty sure Stephano said S+R not B and R
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
January 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#3110
On January 16 2012 05:53 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:51 windsupernova wrote:
Stephano´s ZvT is ridiculous. I don´t get how can people balance whine about ZvT after seeing games like this where Stephano wins so convincingly.

Poor Tzain but it seems he needs to reevaluate his TvZ.


It looks great when you play against him like he's going muta/ling/bane.

It looks pretty terrible when you adjust and play like Boxer, Alive and MVP did.


That's a pretty good point. I don't want to diminish Stephano's skill by one bit (I feel he has one of the best game sense atm, including koreans) but Thorzain doesn't use the best choices here, maybe because they aren't suited to his own style. It gives the impression Stephano is outclassing him totally. But for the moment, I just saw extremely good decision of opening and follow up, and even judgment of situation, by Stephano, while Thorzain only plays his famous cautious style, with too slight adjusment here and there.

GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#3111
On January 16 2012 05:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
It was Alive tore that ling-only style apart at IPL3 with a marine/tank elevator wasn't it?


Yes stephano tryed his ling only style vs Alive and he never done it again. Sicne alive took it apart. He does it against Kas still however and Kas dont like it hehe
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#3112
On January 16 2012 05:53 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:52 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:50 Garnet wrote:
IPL3 and ESWC are actually the only major tournaments Stephano has won.


Nop he won IPL 4 UK qualifier also and won another 10k there but it got overshadowed by MLG so no1 knew about it


Not a major tournament.

Debbie Downer
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 20:58:02
January 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#3113
On January 16 2012 05:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
It was Alive tore that ling-only style apart at IPL3 with a marine/tank elevator wasn't it?


Polt has also beaten Stephano several times with clever timing pushes and aggressive tech openings -----> standard macro play.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26758 Posts
January 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#3114
On January 16 2012 05:55 Razakel wrote:
Gutted that Thorzain is getting wrecked, but Stephano's play is really impressive.

You just can't hold it against him, he's such a breath of fresh air from the other more defensive Zerg styles.

True, true, although his vP is some of the most defensive, turtling styles I've seen and makes for bad games, but his vT is often super-aggressive
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#3115
On January 16 2012 05:56 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:53 Seraphone wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:52 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:50 Garnet wrote:
IPL3 and ESWC are actually the only major tournaments Stephano has won.


Nop he won IPL 4 UK qualifier also and won another 10k there but it got overshadowed by MLG so no1 knew about it


Not a major tournament.


He won 10k for first and it had an amazingly stacked line up.

I guess Major tournaments are only IPL3, MLG's this season (even if the IPL quali he won had more money than a normal MLG), and the GSL?


I'd say MLG, GSL, Dreamhack, IPL3, Assembly, Homestory, WCG are the major tournaments.


Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
January 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#3116
On January 16 2012 05:54 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:51 windsupernova wrote:
Stephano´s ZvT is ridiculous. I don´t get how can people balance whine about ZvT after seeing games like this where Stephano wins so convincingly.


you can't really sum up a race to one of the best player


Yes you can. As long as the potential to play better is still there of course you can.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#3117
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

There's major and premiere tournaments on Liqupedia, they divide quite reasonably.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 21:05:09
January 15 2012 20:59 GMT
#3118
On January 16 2012 05:58 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:54 DOUDOU wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:51 windsupernova wrote:
Stephano´s ZvT is ridiculous. I don´t get how can people balance whine about ZvT after seeing games like this where Stephano wins so convincingly.


you can't really sum up a race to one of the best player


Yes you can. As long as the potential to play better is still there of course you can.


Thorzain is pretty mediocre at TvZ dude.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 20:59 GMT
#3119
On January 16 2012 05:53 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 05:52 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 05:50 Garnet wrote:
IPL3 and ESWC are actually the only major tournaments Stephano has won.


Nop he won IPL 4 UK qualifier also and won another 10k there but it got overshadowed by MLG so no1 knew about it


Not a major tournament.


Defiantly a major tournament when you considered the cash price and the players there. SlayersRyung and some other koreans+ sase,grubby,white-ra,Thorzain and many others.

If thats not a major tournament then i dont know what is.
UncleSpanner
Profile Joined November 2011
11 Posts
January 15 2012 20:59 GMT
#3120
Homestory had the same amount of viewers as this with less prize money?

Just more Koreans ^^
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