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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2041
I think mods need to come in here and clean up a little bit. Some retarded comments flowing around.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 15:54:42
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2042
On January 16 2012 00:48 WArped wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


I would say Steph's strongest MU is ZvP, I don't think I've seen him lose a ZvP series while he has laddered.


I remember Stephano got stomped by Squirtle repeteadly. It was weird because even his fanclub was saying how well Squirtle played.

EDIT: Also, one thing I want to note is that he repeatedly stomp Sage at first, but... it almost looked like Sage was getting better due to their games against each other and towards the end, they were pretty even in matches if you exclude the time before the Blizzard Cup.

I've been watching the replays of those games to see what I can figure out sometimes; it feels weird watching them because Squirtled played WAY better than he normally does in the GSL...
Gameplay > Personality
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2043
Stephano's style is very aggressive but also late game oriented. He will defend ANYTHING that gets used against him with spines and Roaches while expanding everywhere and pouncing on weaknesses so fast. His mechanics rival Korean progamers, it's not surprising he won that series.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2044
On January 16 2012 00:51 HappyChris wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:48 Olinimm wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.

No one cares about ladder. MC is the only top Protoss he's faced in a tournament and he's been raped everytime.


ok:D

So 1 protoss beats him wow outrage. Call the national guard..



and those ppl dont even know shit about games.

all MC did was allining EVERY GAME. there was no lategame and that is the only thing ppl hate on atm. we know that protoss has strong timings that are hard to deal with, but protoss nowadays relies on doing those and thats garbage
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2045
On January 16 2012 00:52 JohnMatrix wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:48 Tarotis wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:48 WArped wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


I would say Steph's strongest MU is ZvP, I don't think I've seen him lose a ZvP series while he has laddered.

Grubby and MaNa take games from him regularly


sephano must be something like 10-1 vs Grubby lol

Talking about ladder here, Grubby manages to beat him there now and then
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2046
On January 16 2012 00:48 graNite wrote:
I will root so much for Thorzain because Ret is just a Macro cheeser. all he does is mass drones early on and he wins if the enemie does not kill him then. All the games i saw when the opponent did a 2base push or allin he lost.

Funny how many people think he is good because they cant believe how fast his drone count builds up.


It's actually how Zerg works. You drone as much as you can, often times too much to be safe at the same time, but your opponent cannot know that easily, and he gets freely behind if you get away with it. Ret is just the extreme of this view.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2047
As much as I love Ret, I really don't want a ZvZ for the final.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2048
On January 16 2012 00:49 Tarotis wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:48 Chewbacca. wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 Tarotis wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 NomiC wrote:
Zerg is a good race. Infestor good unit. Brood Lord good unit. Good thing protoss has good late game units like carriers. Oh, wait... Anyway, people who dont think the game is balanced are just QQing noobs. Its not like Protoss has nothing to deal with the zerg late game death ball.

What do they have to deal with it?


Archon toliet? Whenever archon toliet beats infestor brood comp everyone bitches about archon toliet. Everytime Infestor Brood beats a late game protoss comp everyone bitches about infestor brood.

Just split the Broodlords or neural the mothership and you are completely fine.


Even if the BL are split you still lose half of your army and the Protoss can finish that off before the vortex pops.

Just neural the Mothership? Just feedback the Infestors. Neither one is particularly easy when HT are picked off right away by broods and infestors are picked off right away by collosus.
NomiC
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2049
On January 16 2012 00:51 Pipeline wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:46 Musicus wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 JohnMatrix wrote:
Grubby never did a single feed back vs these mass infestors why ?


I think Hts won't get past the broodlings to feedback.


You can and should argue that a quicker, faster and more precise protoss player would use a warp prism for feedbacks. Time the HT/feedback drops with the broodlords slow reload speed.


Yes and while they drop HTs to feedback infestors they cant forget to blink under brood lords and target them 1 by 1, vortex before mothership gets NPd and go back to base to warp in more units. Its very crucial to do all this to defeat the zergs A-move and use of 2 infestor spells.
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2050
On January 16 2012 00:49 StreetSkillz wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


You mean by top korean protossses only MC right?


Well he's pretty much only played MC in tournaments of the korean tosses but in ladder he gets roflstomped a lot. I don't watch his stream very much but I saw him play against Sage and he got to his mass broodlord/infestor late game comp and still he got absolutely crushed.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2051
On January 16 2012 00:51 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:48 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 KalWarkov wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:43 snIJIJzer wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.

I thought you stopped watching? Stop crying balance it's annoying as hell and stephano is clearly the better player right now.


how is stephano the better player right now?
i dont see a difference at all.

both stay passive and macro, grubby even gets a lead after the first skirmishes guess what happens: Army A is unbeatable to Army B.


Grubby is worse because he lost late game ZvP while in a lead.

Have you not seen how every zerg for the last few months gets raped from archon + mothership + HT (storm on the infested terran eggs/balls)

No, I haven't seen any of your ladder games.


Right. Don't try to argue on a forum if that's the best you can come up with, kid.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#2052
On January 16 2012 00:51 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
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On January 16 2012 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The balance whining isn't so great.


Your inability to cast and observe isn't so great too.
Wow that's harsh.

But about observing - maybe sometimes TB can follow the battle more actively when it slides out of the screen. Happened yesterday too and seems so surprising, like the obs is not really watching the screen for a moment, assuming it's a battle.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2053
I love the WC2 music! Was my favorite game for years back in the days!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
SaoPaulo
Profile Joined December 2011
Brazil62 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2054
On January 16 2012 00:53 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:52 JohnMatrix wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:48 Tarotis wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:48 WArped wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


I would say Steph's strongest MU is ZvP, I don't think I've seen him lose a ZvP series while he has laddered.

Grubby and MaNa take games from him regularly


sephano must be something like 10-1 vs Grubby lol

Talking about ladder here, Grubby manages to beat him there now and then

Stop lying. I watch Stephano`s steam and he harldy faces Grubby in ladder. The last time they actually played eachother was like 2 months ago, before he was going to Korea. All of those games Stephano only lost one.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2055
Were the Grubby-Stephano games good? 3-0 seems pretty decisive.
sodapop
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden189 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2056
Broodlords really ruin games. So boring to watch.

On the topic of the match, meh? Neither player looking very good in that last round.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 15:55:48
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2057
Zzzzz cmon guys.... enjoy the show
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2058
On January 16 2012 00:46 supdubdup wrote:
How does a protoss deal with 15 infestors, a billion broodlords, and corruptors >< It's so strong.


He avoids to put himself in that kind of situation. Easier to say than to do, but it's the solution. Remember HSC4, how many times MC did go in late game vs zerg? Never.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
January 15 2012 15:55 GMT
#2059
On January 16 2012 00:53 DaCruise wrote:
I think mods need to come in here and clean up a little bit. Some retarded comments flowing around.


I agree.
I've got moves like Jagger
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
January 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#2060
On January 16 2012 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The balance whining isn't so great.

Wait until Ret lets T-Zain get his ghost composition.
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