EPTOn January 16 2012 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The balance whining isn't so great.
The balance whining isn't so great.
Your calls during battles arent either, you prefer we complain about that?
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
Your calls during battles arent either, you prefer we complain about that? | ||
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WaldosLonelyWife
United States20 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote: The balance whining isn't so great. Your inability to cast and observe isn't so great too. User was warned for this post | ||
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The Void
Germany428 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kRpuv.jpg) like manhandling Grubby | ||
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26032 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 Chewbacca. wrote: Archon toliet? Whenever archon toliet beats infestor brood comp everyone bitches about archon toliet. Everytime Infestor Brood beats a late game protoss comp everyone bitches about infestor brood. I bitch because it is a STUPID way to decide lategame. General pattern assuming the early/midgames went Ok for both players, when it gets to the BL/Infestor combo stage: 1. Protoss has mothership and nails a good archon toilet. Protoss wins. 2. Protoss has no mothership or vortex fails. Zerg wins. That is a stupid dynamic to me, from both sides of the equation. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 Olinimm wrote: No one cares about ladder. MC is the only top Protoss he's faced in a tournament and he's been raped everytime. ok, im sure DRG and MMA agree:D So 1 protoss beats him wow outrage. Call the national guard.. | ||
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Zyte
Netherlands564 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:45 KalWarkov wrote: how is stephano the better player right now? i dont see a difference at all. both stay passive and macro, grubby even gets a lead after the first skirmishes guess what happens: Army A is unbeatable to Army B. Not sure if troll or srs right now? Grubby is a great player but he made some weird decisions in g3, eg: Stop to pressure zerg when he is ahead, losing random collosi to fungals, losing many prisms and last but not least: going carriers. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 SafeAsCheese wrote: Grubby is worse because he lost late game ZvP while in a lead. Have you not seen how every zerg for the last few months gets raped from archon + mothership + HT (storm on the infested terran eggs/balls) No, I haven't seen any of your ladder games. | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
Also I'm not sure Grubby has enough experience with lategame PvZ, mothership without archons is kinda weak. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:50 Seraphone wrote: Stephano is 0-5 vs MC. MC plays to win not to impress balance whiners and wood league players on forums. He's not an idiot that's why he's won $250,000 from this game. Yeah, Stephano might be a league above Grubby still but he is definitely a league(or two) below MC. And Thorzain fighting!  | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 foxmeep wrote: That's exactly how you beat it  Grubby played an absolutely terrible late game to allow Stephano to mass up so many infestor/broodlords. Against a good player, you simply don't get to sit around till you have the spare 10,000 gas for that unit composition. so you admit that protoss relies on timings and 2/3 base allins to beat zerg? how funny is that please. shouldnt it be possible for any race to at least have the possiblity to fight any army almost equally in very late game to be able to win games with massive leads? Its sad that you kill 50 supply of a Zerg army (zerg, the race iwth the highest income usually) with any composition? | ||
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Farad
216 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:50 clusen wrote: The WC3 music is better tho, atleast the orc themes :p Oh no, you didn't! | ||
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SaoPaulo
Brazil62 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:51 graNite wrote: did you watch the mc games? he killed him before the late game. Exactly. So what does it stop Grubby from doing that? Macro games to his viewers? GIve me a break... Again, a joke. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:51 Pipeline wrote: You can and should argue that a quicker, faster and more precise protoss player would use a warp prism for feedbacks. Time the HT/feedback drops with the broodlords slow reload speed. You'd think Stephano would fungal the Warp Prism.. like he did with the 6 other Warp Prisms Grubby made over the course of the game.. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:51 Pipeline wrote: You can and should argue that a quicker, faster and more precise protoss player would use a warp prism for feedbacks. Time the HT/feedback drops with the broodlords slow reload speed. it's actually quite ridiculous that an unit would need such management though | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 Tarotis wrote: Grubby and MaNa take games from him regularly sephano must be something like 10-1 vs Grubby lol | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:48 graNite wrote: I will root so much for Thorzain because Ret is just a Macro cheeser. all he does is mass drones early on and he wins if the enemie does not kill him then. All the games i saw when the opponent did a 2base push or allin he lost. Funny how many people think he is good because they cant believe how fast his drone count builds up. Kind of agree (with pain in my heart). Ret really isn't very good anymore, largely due to poor motivation. He gets a lot of wins based on his incredible talent, but he really isn't up to date in terms of strategies. All he does is open supergreedy and then hope to overpower opponents in the midgame if it goes unpunished. Hell he is the only Zerg that still goes roach/hydra in ZvP | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote: The balance whining isn't so great. Your casting isnt so great. Good job getting apollo! User was warned for this post | ||
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:51 Wombat_NI wrote: I bitch because it is a STUPID way to decide lategame. General pattern assuming the early/midgames went Ok for both players, when it gets to the BL/Infestor combo stage: 1. Protoss has mothership and nails a good archon toilet. Protoss wins. 2. Protoss has no mothership or vortex fails. Zerg wins. That is a stupid dynamic to me, from both sides of the equation. This. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On January 16 2012 00:50 Seraphone wrote: Stephano is 0-5 vs MC. MC plays to win not to impress balance whiners and wood league players on forums. He's not an idiot that's why he's won $250,000 from this game. Non of those games lasted 40min + though, so your comparisen is invalid on how to beat zerg endgame comp. It does tell that Stephano can be beaten early to midgame but not much more tbh. Not saying there is imbalance but i have yet to see a protoss without luck defeat this kind of comp. Could be a way and pro's will find it, while we whine and talk all kinds of nonsense. | ||
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