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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2081
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.


Because he is a good caster, along side Apollo and has actually improved greatly recently with his analysis I have noticed. Don't like it? Turn it off. Not hard.
CerpinTaxt
Profile Joined January 2011
United States208 Posts
January 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2082
I can deal with pages of Balance QQ. Pretty standard at TL.

But people blatently insulting the organizer/caster/thread owner of this tournament is fucking terrible class. These people shouldn't get warnings. They should get insta perma-bans.
#1 Insur Fan!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
January 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2083
On January 16 2012 00:58 SaoPaulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Agreed


He's entertaining. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Plus it is his own damn tournament funded with his own money, he can cast it if he wants..
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2084
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Because he's a good caster. The real question is, does making a new account to troll help you sleep at night?
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:03:12
January 15 2012 16:00 GMT
#2085
--- Nuked ---
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:02:40
January 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#2086
On January 16 2012 00:58 SaoPaulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Agreed


If it wasn't for TB I wouldn't be watching this. Take your hate somewhere else, please.

He's entertaining to listen to and D_Apollo is there for the knowledge.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#2087
Now lets watch ret do his famous 90+ Drones <3
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
January 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#2088
On January 16 2012 00:57 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:53 wklbishop wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:48 WArped wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


I would say Steph's strongest MU is ZvP, I don't think I've seen him lose a ZvP series while he has laddered.


I remember Stephano got stomped by Squirtle repeteadly. It was weird because even his fanclub was saying how well Squirtle played.

EDIT: Also, one thing I want to note is that he repeatedly stomp Sage at first, but... it almost looked like Sage was getting better due to their games against each other and towards the end, they were pretty even in matches if you exclude the time before the Blizzard Cup.

I've been watching the replays of those games to see what I can figure out sometimes; it feels weird watching them because Squirtled played WAY better than he normally does in the GSL...


Yes Squirtle had Stephanos number. Stephano just coulnt beat Squirtle. But sage nahh


Well... at the beginning, Stephano made Sage look so terrible that it was getting sad. But after the Blizzard Cup, Sage was slowly stepping up his game to the point where it looked like they were going even TOWARDS THE END because yea Stephano stomped him hard at first....

I couldn't help but feel that it was like watching teammates play against each other though... what with how many times they played and when you play so much.
Gameplay > Personality
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
January 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#2089
spoon way too predictable, i prefer pure cereal with bare hands, for earlier aggression
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
January 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#2090
On January 16 2012 01:01 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:58 SaoPaulo wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Agreed


If it wasn't for TB I wouldn't be watching this. Take your hate somewhere else, please.


No one would cause its his tournament using his own money to pay the players.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:04:09
January 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#2091
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


MC, Oz, Squirtle, JYP. On his stream he was beaten pretty easily by all these Protoss players, IIRC.

Arguing that Stephano can somehow "figure out" MC and then "deal with it" is just blind fanboyism. *looks at name* Oh, hi HappyChris. What a surprise.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
January 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#2092
that's ballsy. javla terran
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#2093
On January 16 2012 01:01 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:58 SaoPaulo wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Agreed


If it wasn't for TB I wouldn't be watching this. Take your hate somewhere else, please.

He's entertaining to listen to and D_Apollo is there for the knowledge.



Yeah! TB is a great caster! Definitely one of my favorites!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#2094
On January 16 2012 01:01 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:57 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:53 wklbishop wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:48 WArped wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


I would say Steph's strongest MU is ZvP, I don't think I've seen him lose a ZvP series while he has laddered.


I remember Stephano got stomped by Squirtle repeteadly. It was weird because even his fanclub was saying how well Squirtle played.

EDIT: Also, one thing I want to note is that he repeatedly stomp Sage at first, but... it almost looked like Sage was getting better due to their games against each other and towards the end, they were pretty even in matches if you exclude the time before the Blizzard Cup.

I've been watching the replays of those games to see what I can figure out sometimes; it feels weird watching them because Squirtled played WAY better than he normally does in the GSL...


Yes Squirtle had Stephanos number. Stephano just coulnt beat Squirtle. But sage nahh


Well... at the beginning, Stephano made Sage look so terrible that it was getting sad. But after the Blizzard Cup, Sage was slowly stepping up his game to the point where it looked like they were going even TOWARDS THE END because yea Stephano stomped him hard at first....

I couldn't help but feel that it was like watching teammates play against each other though... what with how many times they played and when you play so much.


Yea, hehe Sage and Stephano must have played like 50 times. Seed also
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#2095
Maybe we can take away the Thorzain overlay now?
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
January 15 2012 16:04 GMT
#2096
On January 16 2012 01:03 TheBB wrote:
Maybe we can take away the Thorzain overlay now?


Unless he reads his sub chat, he will never know.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:05:36
January 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#2097
On January 16 2012 01:02 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


MC, Oz, Sage, JYP. On his stream he was beaten pretty easily by all these Protoss players, IIRC.

Arguing that Stephano can somehow "figure out" MC and then "deal with it" is just blind fanboyism. *looks at name* Oh, hi HappyChris. What a surprise.


Seaswitft you dont know anything. Sage and OZ all got beaten down hard in korea. Only protoss Stephano coulnt beat was Squirtle. And i cant recall he ever played JYP in Korea

May i suggest before you post actually know wtf you talking about instead of just talking out you sex butt:D
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
January 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#2098
On January 16 2012 00:44 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:42 WiljushkA wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:40 KalWarkov wrote:
balance ftw.


dont make balance excuses for grubby being the worse player. if you ever watched stephano playing against top korean protosses with this playstyle you'd see that they dont have any trouble dealing with it. its just that grubby's lategame management/harass/army micro is not that good.

Not balance whining but can you give show me an example? None of Stephano's games I remember vs top Korean Protosses have allowed him to reach this composition.



i mostly talk from watching his stream back when he was laddering in korea. so i guess you could find replays of that in his korea ladder reppack. half the games i watched that got to lategame zvp he got demolished by mass zealot warpins all over his expos and mothership/ht/stalker/collossus. you just threaten an attack with your main force as you warp prism in 2 different places, so he cant split effectively.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:07:07
January 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#2099
On January 16 2012 00:58 SaoPaulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.

Agreed

I find that bashing a caster in a tournament that he hosted in himself very low(?). Regardless, he rarely says anything wrong (since he never analyses) and is very entertaining so that's why people enjoy him casting.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#2100
On January 16 2012 01:05 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:02 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:46 HappyChris wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:42 phyren wrote:
stephano makes me a sad zealot...


He makes most European Protosses sad Zealots. He gets roflstomped by top Korean Protosses though.


rolfstomped? who MC? thats one. And as soon stephano learn that MC never builds 3rd base he will deal with it

You should watch Stephano stream from Korea and see the top korean protoss he slaughtered tbh.


MC, Oz, Sage, JYP. On his stream he was beaten pretty easily by all these Protoss players, IIRC.

Arguing that Stephano can somehow "figure out" MC and then "deal with it" is just blind fanboyism. *looks at name* Oh, hi HappyChris. What a surprise.


Seaswitft you dont know anything. Sage and OZ all got beaten down hard in korea. Only protoss Stephano coulnt beat was Squirtle. And i cant recall he ever played JYP in Korea

May i suggest before you post actually know wtf you talking about instead of just talking out you sex butt:D


Clearly he can't beat MC either.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
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