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On January 08 2012 03:34 Drazerk wrote:Goody pretty much has a free ride in that group Free win vs cloud Free win vs JYP Will be a race for Second place I guess
Wait... have i missed something?
As far as I am aware vP is goodys weakest match-up by a significant margin, why would he get a free win versus a protoss as strong as JYP?
Don't get me wrong, I'd fucking love goody to win.
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Conference? 2v2's? o_o Cool!
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Wow, Nerchio really dominated Violet there.
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On January 08 2012 03:39 Jobber wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:38 SeaSwift wrote:On January 08 2012 03:37 tdt wrote:On January 08 2012 03:29 Nibbler89 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:27 hypnossc2 wrote:
why naama even play this? this is horrible play style Because trying to win a macro game tvp as a non korean T vs a non korean P is already pretty hard. I don't know if a foreign T has ever beat a korean protoss in a macro game. On January 08 2012 03:29 Snettik wrote:
Naamas TvP isn't very good. His TvZ and TvT seem more impressive though It's not that, it's just TvP for non koreans is by far the hardest MU. Although their odds of winning vs korean T in TvT is also probably pretty dismal. How could you forget TSL 3 Thorzain vs MC g5? And I'm sure it happened more than that. Obligatory "remember the latency!" TSL was an online tournament, as epic as it was. Thorzain and nani were in the same house for the finals. Every tournament is a online tournament because there is no lan.
he's talking about thorzain vs mc, not thorzain vs naniwa
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Man I want Goody to do well so bad. Artosis cry tears of joy when mech wins.
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Group A next! Everybody can still advance gonna be epic! Grubby fighting!
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On January 08 2012 03:40 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:34 Drazerk wrote:On January 08 2012 03:33 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
goody vs cloud lol
Goody pretty much has a free ride in that group Free win vs cloud Free win vs JYP Will be a race for Second place I guess Wait... have i missed something? Is far as I am aware vP is goodys weakest match-up by a significant margin, why would he get a free win versus a protoss as strong as JYP? Don't get me wrong, I'd fucking love goody to win.
JYP is weak PvT, but i really don't think it's a free win like that guy said.
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On January 08 2012 03:37 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:34 Drazerk wrote:On January 08 2012 03:33 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
goody vs cloud lol
Goody pretty much has a free ride in that group Free win vs cloud Free win vs JYP Will be a race for Second place I guess How is it a free win vs JYP? I'll be honest I didn't see him play against Terran in the GSL, but is he really THAT bad, or was he just not that great against Terran and was getting beat by very good players?
He's 0-14 vs terrans in the last 6 or so months. He's abysmal vs T.
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PDD: Effective against Marauders, Vikings, Banshees, Battlecruisers, Thors, Missile Turrets, Reaper D8 Charges, Stalkers, Phoenixes, Photon Cannons, Queens, Mutalisks, Corruptors, Hydralisks, and Spor.
PDD is not effective against Carriers!
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On January 08 2012 03:39 DDie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:30 creepcolony wrote:On January 08 2012 03:28 DDie wrote:
Zealots in main, pull 40 scvs into enemys base.
Thats so... bad, just bad.. Thats not bad at all. He likely would have done it anyway. Any strategy that involves pulling 40 workers is bad.
Oh, so Naama was winning Dreamhack with bad strategys?
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On January 08 2012 03:40 Leviance wrote:
and again a foreigner takes game 1 of a series....
To build up hope... just to have it all crashing down.
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Inc: 'Someone's breathing into the microphone' - I hope so, we're still alive...
:D :D :D
Buuut: who is incontrol casting with? 
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On January 08 2012 03:41 Jochan wrote:
Man I want Goody to do well so bad. Artosis cry tears of joy when mech wins.
But Goody plays bio vP now ^^
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On January 08 2012 03:40 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:34 Drazerk wrote:On January 08 2012 03:33 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
goody vs cloud lol
Goody pretty much has a free ride in that group Free win vs cloud Free win vs JYP Will be a race for Second place I guess Wait... have i missed something? Is far as I am aware vP is goodys weakest match-up by a significant margin, why would he get a free win versus a protoss as strong as JYP? Don't get me wrong, I'd fucking love goody to win.
he's saying that because jyp is 21% vT
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On January 08 2012 03:38 Pajegetc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:37 tdt wrote:On January 08 2012 03:29 Nibbler89 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:27 hypnossc2 wrote:
why naama even play this? this is horrible play style Because trying to win a macro game tvp as a non korean T vs a non korean P is already pretty hard. I don't know if a foreign T has ever beat a korean protoss in a macro game. On January 08 2012 03:29 Snettik wrote:
Naamas TvP isn't very good. His TvZ and TvT seem more impressive though It's not that, it's just TvP for non koreans is by far the hardest MU. Although their odds of winning vs korean T in TvT is also probably pretty dismal. How could you forget TSL 3 Thorzain vs MC g5? And I'm sure it happened more than that. Was about to say, Thorzain does it quite often.
MC was in europe at the time.
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If my math is not completely of, Sound could be eliminated if both Grubby and Dimaga win 2:0... This conference will be really exiting and I like the decision to do it as a conference a lot actualy!
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Besides that, comparing Puma's 1/1/1 which wins him lots and lots of games (and money) to a soccer team standing still and losing 0-50. One wins, the other loses. Don't compare those.
I am comparing the 50-0 to Naniwa and not Puma...
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On January 08 2012 03:38 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:34 aviator116 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:33 Megabuster123 wrote:On January 08 2012 03:31 vthree wrote:The point is, penalizing players for the quality of their games is ridiculous. Whatever reason you have for watching Starcraft, you're dissaapointment for what happens in-game shouldn't negatively affect the player. Just because I hate seeing Puma 1/1/1 every protoss, doesn't mean he should be punished for doing it in game. No, it is not ridiculous when the players shows 0 effort. Say in soccer game, one team just does not move and lose 50-0. Don't you think the players would be punished? It is not about people hating the style or whatever. It was that there was no effort made and it was just a terrible gesture from the player. So why should GSL give Naniwa a Code S seed? I don't really care about the Code S seed. I don't see the difference between rushing battlecruisers and probe rushing. Neither player is taking it seriously, and any attempt to penalize players because of the quality of their games is absolutely ridiculous. but the BC person 1. entertained the crowd 2. tried, to some degree. 1. So what? 2. No they didn't. The entire game is a facade. They may play the game out for the fun of the crowd, but rushing ridiculous tech paths and doing weird builds is abandoning victory.
...but MKP won? Hero's rushed carriers on stream against Korean pros. huk rushed mothership in MLG games before in PvP. its not abandoning victory. define 'weird builds' please. if i proxy 7rax, i think i still have a good chance of winning against a zerg opponent.
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What does conference mean? anyone?
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On January 08 2012 03:40 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2012 03:34 Drazerk wrote:On January 08 2012 03:33 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
goody vs cloud lol
Goody pretty much has a free ride in that group Free win vs cloud Free win vs JYP Will be a race for Second place I guess Wait... have i missed something? Is far as I am aware vP is goodys weakest match-up by a significant margin, why would he get a free win versus a protoss as strong as JYP? Don't get me wrong, I'd fucking love goody to win.
JYP is really bad against T. Like really really bad.
Still calling it a free win is a bit to much.
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