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GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
February 07 2012 02:53 GMT
#641
That was a really silly mistake by Jinro flying his command center back to the fourth when he knew the Protoss army was outside of his base, probably lost him the game.
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 07 2012 02:55 GMT
#642
On February 07 2012 11:53 softan wrote:
Ye Tales didn't win that game it was Jinro that lost it. I feel like Jinro threw that away. But I guess that's easy to say when you have a birds eye view on everything. But I don't understand why he didn't drop Tales when he was contained by him, it would have done loads of damage I think.


Didn't really have the medivacs to drop, only had 2, which was KIND of a mistake but when in TvP you have to produce 3 vikings per colossus, just so hard to find the gas and build time for medivacs (let alone the gas for ghosts as well)... Late TvP is so difficult to deal with in the macro.
softan
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden113 Posts
February 07 2012 02:56 GMT
#643
On February 07 2012 11:55 jjmmtt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 11:53 softan wrote:
Ye Tales didn't win that game it was Jinro that lost it. I feel like Jinro threw that away. But I guess that's easy to say when you have a birds eye view on everything. But I don't understand why he didn't drop Tales when he was contained by him, it would have done loads of damage I think.


Didn't really have the medivacs to drop, only had 2, which was KIND of a mistake but when in TvP you have to produce 3 vikings per colossus, just so hard to find the gas and build time for medivacs (let alone the gas for ghosts as well)... Late TvP is so difficult to deal with in the macro.


Ye I guess you're right. Maybe a slightly lower viking count but higher medivac cound AND not losing his command center would have been enough though for him to win.
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
February 07 2012 02:59 GMT
#644
I hope Jinro can pull out a win in game 3 after kind of falling apart in the second half of game 2. His first three games today were great, but beating desrow is very different from beating Tails. Great to see him actually winning some games though.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 03:03:31
February 07 2012 03:02 GMT
#645
ok this is scary but great getting units out of the bunkers and he has 2 medi's coming, GREAT dropship micro, with 3 orbitals he got it done

edit: tails is now committing to a range colossi allin, 2 forges for a +1 timing, if jinro can defend this followup he has it
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
February 07 2012 03:11 GMT
#646
Its not a European haircut. Its the justin beiber cut.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
February 07 2012 03:12 GMT
#647
God the twitchtv app is so bad. For every hour I watch I probably watch 15 minutes of what I've already seen as it endlessly cycles through qualities. Atrocious.

In other news, gg tails. It's weird though. When I see him stream he takes the worlds greediest thirds usually. Strange to see him two basing so hard but it worked.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 07 2012 03:20 GMT
#648
With this many marines it really seems like shields would be worth it
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 07 2012 03:22 GMT
#649
Naama can never be described by depictions rendered by "general people", he is a step above lol
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 07 2012 03:25 GMT
#650
Naama... you don't just max out against protoss...
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 07 2012 03:38 GMT
#651
I think there's a fair chance that naama is gonna end up as TLO. Funny builds, mediocre results.
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 03:44:42
February 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#652
This is why I hope one day mech is considered viable. That match was pretty cool.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#653
On February 07 2012 12:38 m0ck wrote:
I think there's a fair chance that naama is gonna end up as TLO. Funny builds, mediocre results.


I feel Naama already has better tournament results than TLO and his ability to control and multitask to get the most out of his unit compositions puts him ahead of many foreigners, I feel once he gets more out of Korean training he will be a very strong contender for code A. Too many people discount him because of his buids
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#654
On February 07 2012 12:45 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 12:38 m0ck wrote:
I think there's a fair chance that naama is gonna end up as TLO. Funny builds, mediocre results.


I feel Naama already has better tournament results than TLO and his ability to control and multitask to get the most out of his unit compositions puts him ahead of many foreigners, I feel once he gets more out of Korean training he will be a very strong contender for code A. Too many people discount him because of his buids


I don't know about that, I think his decision making is probably what lets him down. Had basically no vikings, had half his army out in the middle of nowhere... Lets a protoss player max out and doesn't get his own upgrades. All sorts of things just letting him down in this match up. Not polished I'd call it even though it's fun to watch.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
February 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#655
I just cant understand what Naama is doing.
Like, going 1/0 when the protoss is 3/3, with marines/tanks against a protoss army .. i mean, marines really are weak when they are alone against a protss army, and everybody knows that every single protoss unit (except maybe sentries) counter siege tanks ... charge zealots, blink stalker, phoenix, immortals ... not that i'm bashing Naama, i just don't understand what he did. He was like "hey, this is some free wins for you man".

I hope someone can explain me what was the purpose of his build. I'm switching terran recently, and i dont understand how this could be good against a late game protoss army.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 07 2012 03:50 GMT
#656
On February 07 2012 12:48 jjmmtt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 12:45 Badfatpanda wrote:
On February 07 2012 12:38 m0ck wrote:
I think there's a fair chance that naama is gonna end up as TLO. Funny builds, mediocre results.


I feel Naama already has better tournament results than TLO and his ability to control and multitask to get the most out of his unit compositions puts him ahead of many foreigners, I feel once he gets more out of Korean training he will be a very strong contender for code A. Too many people discount him because of his buids


I don't know about that, I think his decision making is probably what lets him down. Had basically no vikings, had half his army out in the middle of nowhere... Lets a protoss player max out and doesn't get his own upgrades. All sorts of things just letting him down in this match up. Not polished I'd call it even though it's fun to watch.


That's why I never listed decision making as his strongsuit ^^
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 07 2012 03:52 GMT
#657
On February 07 2012 12:49 Supter wrote:
I just cant understand what Naama is doing.
Like, going 1/0 when the protoss is 3/3, with marines/tanks against a protoss army .. i mean, marines really are weak when they are alone against a protss army, and everybody knows that every single protoss unit (except maybe sentries) counter siege tanks ... charge zealots, blink stalker, phoenix, immortals ... not that i'm bashing Naama, i just don't understand what he did. He was like "hey, this is some free wins for you man".

I hope someone can explain me what was the purpose of his build. I'm switching terran recently, and i dont understand how this could be good against a late game protoss army.


It's not good, don't do it
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 07 2012 04:17 GMT
#658
How did Jinro's series with Tails go? He obviously lost but were they close games?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 07 2012 05:09 GMT
#659
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
February 07 2012 05:27 GMT
#660
On February 07 2012 13:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
How did Jinro's series with Tails go? He obviously lost but were they close games?

He was playing pretty solid all around, lost a kind of heart breaking game to a very weirdly time 6 gate. (Tails went for like, 3 gate robo, then added in 3 more gates and basically committed to a 6 gate before really scouting anything with the obs, kind of a good meta game play on Metropolis to delayed 6 gate all in because the Terran won't expect it, and of course Jinro had gone the standard 1 rax CC CC build)
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