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Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
February 07 2012 00:19 GMT
#561
That... 8-gate was terrible. He had like zero units when he attacked. He should've at least waited for another warp-in.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 07 2012 00:21 GMT
#562
What is Desrow doing in this? I am confused.
Off-season = best season
Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 00:22:34
February 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#563
On February 07 2012 09:16 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:14 Starcraftplaylist wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:00 R!! wrote:
That's one of the reasons I don't like watching ESV Weekly, orb is generally too conceited and arrogant when talking about these extremely good players' play ( that obviously have a much bigger understanding than any caster out there), when he doesn't actually know what he is talking about.


You may be critical about about how they play even if they are better than you. Orb has very good knowledge and some mistakes are obviously very easy to call out even if you in some cases have a less game knowledge. Predictions and theory crafting is way more interesting than the guys who just shout out what happens on the screen.

Sure, you can be critical, but not overly critical whist sounding like you could do much better in any given day of the week, and he needs to use his words more carefully, things can get pretty insulting.


I think you are reading too much into what he's saying. Don't take his criticism of the players personally, if anyone was to care it should be the players themselves. And for the record yes sometimes Orb and other casters can get ahead of themselved when stating players mistakes, especially when using observer bias, but in general he's actually really good at knowing what went wrong and definitely knows what he's talking about.
"Turns out he's a former Counterstrike pro and grabs his ak!" - Tasteless
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
February 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#564
Ahh, all the players that could have been there instead of Desrow...
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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 07 2012 00:23 GMT
#565
Cannon rush, 8 gate and then scouting a location where a player can't spawn. Jeez...
@followMVT
Starcraftplaylist
Profile Joined May 2011
194 Posts
February 07 2012 00:24 GMT
#566
On February 07 2012 09:16 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:14 Starcraftplaylist wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:00 R!! wrote:
That's one of the reasons I don't like watching ESV Weekly, orb is generally too conceited and arrogant when talking about these extremely good players' play ( that obviously have a much bigger understanding than any caster out there), when he doesn't actually know what he is talking about.


You may be critical about about how they play even if they are better than you. Orb has very good knowledge and some mistakes are obviously very easy to call out even if you in some cases have a less game knowledge. Predictions and theory crafting is way more interesting than the guys who just shout out what happens on the screen.

Sure, you can be critical, but not overly critical whist sounding like you could do much better in any given day of the week, and he needs to use his words more carefully, things can get pretty insulting.


I have never seen the commentary as insulting. I guess it depends on how you think about it. I'm 100% sure he does not hold himself to the same standards, but it's inevitable that he compares the participants gameplay to the same standards as the top players.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 07 2012 00:25 GMT
#567
just tuned in... is this painuser?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 07 2012 00:26 GMT
#568
On February 07 2012 09:25 IMoperator wrote:
just tuned in... is this painuser?


Jinro vs desrow, orb and adebisi commentating.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#569
Wow nice play by Jinro! No need to keep the CC down. :D
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
February 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#570
Sick Orbital lift.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#571
Warp prism sniped!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#572
Those were some funny ffs.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 07 2012 00:27 GMT
#573
LOL! smart lift by jinro. Huge loss for Desrow
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#574
On February 07 2012 09:26 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:25 IMoperator wrote:
just tuned in... is this painuser?


Jinro vs desrow, orb and adebisi commentating.

thanks lol, sounded a lot like painuser at first.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
February 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#575
I don't know, Desrow just isn't very good. Maybe he can get better but he's pretty much been at the same level for a year.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 07 2012 00:29 GMT
#576
oh man...desRow playing with absolutely zero plan.

Also his timing is worst one for a pro player.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 07 2012 00:30 GMT
#577
On February 07 2012 09:25 IMoperator wrote:
just tuned in... is this painuser?

Painuser and Destiny's lovechild.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 00:33:13
February 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#578
On February 07 2012 09:18 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:16 R!! wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:14 Starcraftplaylist wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:00 R!! wrote:
That's one of the reasons I don't like watching ESV Weekly, orb is generally too conceited and arrogant when talking about these extremely good players' play ( that obviously have a much bigger understanding than any caster out there), when he doesn't actually know what he is talking about.


You may be critical about about how they play even if they are better than you. Orb has very good knowledge and some mistakes are obviously very easy to call out even if you in some cases have a less game knowledge. Predictions and theory crafting is way more interesting than the guys who just shout out what happens on the screen.

Sure, you can be critical, but not overly critical whist sounding like you could do much better in any given day of the week, and he needs to use his words more carefully, things can get pretty insulting.


Have you heard of Artosis? He criticizes freaking GSL Code S players way worse than Orb.

Artosis has arguably much more credentials, having played in code A himself, and still, I don't agree with what he does either.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 07 2012 09:22 Share_The_Land wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 09:16 R!! wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:14 Starcraftplaylist wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:00 R!! wrote:
That's one of the reasons I don't like watching ESV Weekly, orb is generally too conceited and arrogant when talking about these extremely good players' play ( that obviously have a much bigger understanding than any caster out there), when he doesn't actually know what he is talking about.


You may be critical about about how they play even if they are better than you. Orb has very good knowledge and some mistakes are obviously very easy to call out even if you in some cases have a less game knowledge. Predictions and theory crafting is way more interesting than the guys who just shout out what happens on the screen.

Sure, you can be critical, but not overly critical whist sounding like you could do much better in any given day of the week, and he needs to use his words more carefully, things can get pretty insulting.


I think you are reading too much into what he's saying. Don't take his criticism of the players personally, if anyone was to care it should be the players themselves. And for the record yes sometimes Orb and other casters can get ahead of themselved when stating players mistakes, especially when using observer bias, but in general he's actually really good at knowing what went wrong and definitely knows what he's talking about.


I will try to see his commentary in a different light.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 07 2012 00:32 GMT
#579
Why did he drop forcefields? He only ended up blocked his own zealots
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 07 2012 00:32 GMT
#580
He tried pushing the units away from the nexus.
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