EPT[KSL] MvP vs oGs: 2012 Opening Ceremonies! - Page 7
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red4ce
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Loxley
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HereBeDragons
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On January 02 2012 23:00 Amornthep wrote: Well executed all-in by Finale. What all-in? Finale pressured and jookToo just fell apart with poor positioning and unit choices trying to go for spire and hydras at the same time. Stop complaining everything is cheeses and all-in. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 02 2012 22:51 Badfatpanda wrote: TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most. Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play a lot of TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:03 Inflicted_ wrote: Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT. TOP's TvP is quite bad yes, he lost to GatoreD back at IEM, and has never done quite well in the matchup tbh. | ||
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Special Tektics
Ukraine84 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:03 Inflicted_ wrote: Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT. He hammered MC 4-0 in a huge upset back when MC looked almost untouchable in PvT last christmas...but yeah, generally speaking (and especially in relevant terms) his TvP isn't remotely great. On January 02 2012 23:01 hzflank wrote: Why didnt he get the hydra den down earlier? He did not need the spire since colossus were never going to come that early (all that gas into sentries). Ten hydras would of let him hold that. I presume the plan was to transition into mutas after scouting robo tech, they're kind of awesome. He didn't bank on the immortal push though and it hit at a nice timing. He dropped the hydra den as soon as he realised what was going on but it obviously wasn't in time. | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
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Match 4: Supernova vs Finale | ||
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Meiffeltower
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:03 HereBeDragons wrote: What all-in? Finale pressured and jookToo just fell apart with poor positioning and unit choices trying to go for spire and hydras at the same time. Stop complaining everything is cheeses and all-in. That was pretty all-in to be honest. He stopped making probes for a long time and had very little tech (only a bare robo and a ton of gates), all on 2 bases with no intention of taking a third. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:04 Asha` wrote: He hammered MC 4-0 in a huge upset back when MC looked almost untouchable in PvT last christmas...but yeah, generally speaking (and especially in relevant terms) his TvP isn't remotely great. Yeah, I think that beating was more because they are in the same team house and TOP completely mindfucked MC. His TvP since then has always looked mediocre, probably because it relies so much on unit control. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:06 SeaSwift wrote: That was pretty all-in to be honest. He stopped making probes for a long time and had very little tech (only a bare robo and a ton of gates), all on 2 bases with no intention of taking a third. As a protoss player it looked pretty standard to me. If you FFE then you have to cut probes to add gateways when warpgate is on its way (unless you stay on only 1 gas), and there is no point in making more than 46 probes until after you do some damage,as you cant be sure when you will take your third on a small map. | ||
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4Servy
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gideel
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Titorelli
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On January 02 2012 23:14 Titorelli wrote: Man Finale is good His mechanics aren't amazing but he has some pretty good decision-making and positioning. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Amornthep
Singapore2605 Posts
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babysimba
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SeaSwift
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