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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 02 2012 14:02 GMT
#121
jookto has literally not won a single game since fOrGG called him one of the best SC2 players.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
January 02 2012 14:03 GMT
#122
Ad spam..Jezus, the same ad 3x times in a row.
월요 날 재미있
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
January 02 2012 14:03 GMT
#123
On January 02 2012 23:00 Amornthep wrote:
Well executed all-in by Finale.


What all-in? Finale pressured and jookToo just fell apart with poor positioning and unit choices trying to go for spire and hydras at the same time. Stop complaining everything is cheeses and all-in.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 14:03:42
January 02 2012 14:03 GMT
#124
On January 02 2012 22:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 22:44 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.


TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most.


Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play a lot of TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT.
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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 02 2012 14:04 GMT
#125
On January 02 2012 23:03 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 22:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:44 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.


TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most.


Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT.

TOP's TvP is quite bad yes, he lost to GatoreD back at IEM, and has never done quite well in the matchup tbh.
It appears I have been chosen.
Special Tektics
Profile Joined November 2011
Ukraine84 Posts
January 02 2012 14:04 GMT
#126
and now supernova? I want nada!
"So sentries have no more energy... can be used to block your zealots"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 14:06:14
January 02 2012 14:04 GMT
#127
On January 02 2012 23:03 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 22:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:44 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.


TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most.


Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT.


He hammered MC 4-0 in a huge upset back when MC looked almost untouchable in PvT last christmas...but yeah, generally speaking (and especially in relevant terms) his TvP isn't remotely great.

On January 02 2012 23:01 hzflank wrote:
Why didnt he get the hydra den down earlier? He did not need the spire since colossus were never going to come that early (all that gas into sentries). Ten hydras would of let him hold that.


I presume the plan was to transition into mutas after scouting robo tech, they're kind of awesome. He didn't bank on the immortal push though and it hit at a nice timing. He dropped the hydra den as soon as he realised what was going on but it obviously wasn't in time.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 02 2012 14:05 GMT
#128
oGs 1 - 2 MVP

Match 4: Supernova vs Finale
BSOD
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
January 02 2012 14:05 GMT
#129
supernoVa.. cmon do it.. 1-1-1 incoming..
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 02 2012 14:06 GMT
#130
On January 02 2012 23:03 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 23:00 Amornthep wrote:
Well executed all-in by Finale.


What all-in? Finale pressured and jookToo just fell apart with poor positioning and unit choices trying to go for spire and hydras at the same time. Stop complaining everything is cheeses and all-in.


That was pretty all-in to be honest. He stopped making probes for a long time and had very little tech (only a bare robo and a ton of gates), all on 2 bases with no intention of taking a third.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 02 2012 14:08 GMT
#131
On January 02 2012 23:04 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 23:03 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:44 Inflicted_ wrote:
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.


TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most.


Are you sure you're getting the person right? I've never seen Top play TvP, much less get praised for it. His TLPD says he's 18-19 in TvP and hasn't beaten a single notable Protoss who has good PvT.


He hammered MC 4-0 in a huge upset back when MC looked almost untouchable in PvT last christmas...but yeah, generally speaking (and especially in relevant terms) his TvP isn't remotely great.


Yeah, I think that beating was more because they are in the same team house and TOP completely mindfucked MC. His TvP since then has always looked mediocre, probably because it relies so much on unit control.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
January 02 2012 14:13 GMT
#132
On January 02 2012 23:06 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 23:03 HereBeDragons wrote:
On January 02 2012 23:00 Amornthep wrote:
Well executed all-in by Finale.


What all-in? Finale pressured and jookToo just fell apart with poor positioning and unit choices trying to go for spire and hydras at the same time. Stop complaining everything is cheeses and all-in.


That was pretty all-in to be honest. He stopped making probes for a long time and had very little tech (only a bare robo and a ton of gates), all on 2 bases with no intention of taking a third.


As a protoss player it looked pretty standard to me. If you FFE then you have to cut probes to add gateways when warpgate is on its way (unless you stay on only 1 gas), and there is no point in making more than 46 probes until after you do some damage,as you cant be sure when you will take your third on a small map.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 02 2012 14:14 GMT
#133
great play by this toss, balls to leave stalkers home vs drop and push forward with his collo army,
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
January 02 2012 14:14 GMT
#134
huge blunders by supernova.....
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 02 2012 14:14 GMT
#135
Man Finale is good
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
January 02 2012 14:16 GMT
#136
On January 02 2012 23:14 Titorelli wrote:
Man Finale is good

His mechanics aren't amazing but he has some pretty good decision-making and positioning.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 02 2012 14:16 GMT
#137
Jooktoo has the force! "Don't push then the T goes back.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
January 02 2012 14:17 GMT
#138
Supernova is falling apart.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 02 2012 14:18 GMT
#139
This guy got balls. Drop me? Time to counter attack. Somehow team MVP is evolving into a team which doesn't need a MVP.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 02 2012 14:19 GMT
#140
Those were some awful Forcefields at the end, but it didn't matter.
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