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[KSL] MvP vs oGs: 2012 Opening Ceremonies! - Page 5

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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 02 2012 13:42 GMT
#81
CBTS needs to be removed from the map pool. It's creates terrible games, it was a nice experiment, but it failed.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
January 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#82
TOP ? jookto ?
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
January 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#83
Does protos ever lose on this map?
MC and MKP fighting ^^
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#84
A pretty mediocre game from both sides. That just looked exactly like what happens when you go Marine/Tank, don't do anything with it, transition slowly and then let Protoss be really greedy with expansions and tech,
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#85
This map is only 15 15 in TvP, but yesterday we saw the exact same game : T passively waiting for his death while they both macro their max supply max tech army.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 13:45:13
January 02 2012 13:43 GMT
#86
This map is crazy one-sided for standard PvT. Need more sick builds like Jjakji's when he played Oz here; watching the shitty ball v ball in the middle > someone dies is boring =(

Kinda the problem with the KSL I spose: it's so low profile that really special builds won't be used =(
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 13:47:12
January 02 2012 13:44 GMT
#87
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.
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Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
January 02 2012 13:44 GMT
#88
Inca maybe.. PvP monster..
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
January 02 2012 13:44 GMT
#89
On January 02 2012 22:42 MCDayC wrote:
CBTS needs to be removed from the map pool. It's creates terrible games, it was a nice experiment, but it failed.


Indeed it's just being used to snipe people in a very easy way.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 02 2012 13:46 GMT
#90
On January 02 2012 22:44 Meiffeltower wrote:
Inca maybe.. PvP monster..


Oooh... nice pick. I see that as a big possibility.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 02 2012 13:47 GMT
#91
On January 02 2012 22:46 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 22:44 Meiffeltower wrote:
Inca maybe.. PvP monster..


Oooh... nice pick. I see that as a big possibility.


I might save Inca for Genius at least? Though maybe that'll be for MC to deal with.

I like Katu's guess of Luvsic...
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 02 2012 13:47 GMT
#92
The map is the result of pvt being imbalanced in gsl. Do not complain gsl using it. Blame on the game designer.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 02 2012 13:47 GMT
#93
Yeah its just used to let the protoss win in this map. I don't think we need to remove it though, just need to make the 3rd wider as to punish greedy protosses who go for fast 3rds and turtles to 200/200
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
January 02 2012 13:48 GMT
#94
oGs juked-two
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
January 02 2012 13:48 GMT
#95
jookto it is..
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 02 2012 13:48 GMT
#96
On January 02 2012 22:47 poorcloud wrote:
Yeah its just used to let the protoss win in this map. I don't think we need to remove it though, just need to make the 3rd wider as to punish greedy protosses who go for fast 3rds and turtles to 200/200


Agreed, I think the map has more potential but it's way too easy to get 3 bases that 1-2 base plays are actually lesser strategies. Opening up the 3rd (or "front natural") I think would do a tonne of good for the map.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 02 2012 13:49 GMT
#97
time for joketo to show his stuff...

can use this opportunity to make breakfast
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 02 2012 13:50 GMT
#98
oGs 1 - 1 MVP

Match 3: jookTo vs Finale
BSOD
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 02 2012 13:50 GMT
#99
Calm before psy storm.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 02 2012 13:51 GMT
#100
On January 02 2012 22:44 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 22:43 Meiffeltower wrote:
TOP ? jookto ?


TOP's bad at TvP. His micro is battle is terrible (as seen on AoL earlier), which doesn't help him much when it comes to TvP.

oGs might send NaDa out, considering his TvP performance during his U&D matches. Perhaps they might send out Luvsic, but I don't see them sending out InCa unless it's Genius or finale beats two more players.


TOP's best matchup has ALWAYS been TvP and TvT, and he created a number of builds that are still popular because he's so good at the matchup, recently his TvT has been inflated on liquipedia because he's been playing so much TvT recently and having to practice the matchup most.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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