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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#341
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
December 23 2011 01:50 GMT
#342
On December 23 2011 10:45 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:44 coko wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
wtf going mech and not having siege mode at 20mins???


He was going iEchoic-esque http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624

A build which barely worked at the best of times, and definitely doesn't work since the Hellion nerf. I'd love to say that Thorzain won the game due to his skill, but Apocalypse played terrible.


It also relies heavily on mobility... and mobility isn't rly worth that much on Shattered where you can easily turtle on 3-4 bases. If he tried it on Tal'Darim I would have understood it more.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
December 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#343
TWO BEST OF NINES!?

Jesus. I mean, yeah it makes sense but my god! That's a hell of a lot of starcraft!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
December 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#344
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.


TvT can be long and exhausting!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
December 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#345
On December 23 2011 10:45 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:44 coko wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
wtf going mech and not having siege mode at 20mins???


He was going iEchoic-esque http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624

A build which barely worked at the best of times, and definitely doesn't work since the Hellion nerf. I'd love to say that Thorzain won the game due to his skill, but Apocalypse played terrible.


Never said it worked "well" just that it wasn't mech.

I think it was foolish to get cloaked banshee when your opponent's first starport unit was a raven ...

Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 23 2011 01:51 GMT
#346
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.

TvT was his best match-up for a while, but I don't think it is his best match-up anymore.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 23 2011 01:52 GMT
#347
On December 23 2011 10:40 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:27 Jisall wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:06 HolyArrow wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:02 Jisall wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 23 2011 09:59 Jisall wrote:
Well would you look at that.. A foriegn team beat a korean team.
Suprized? No. Ready for the incoming excuses? Yes.

Did you watch DRG play? If someone told me he took a fire extinguisher to the head right before he played and then took like 10 sleeping pills I'd believe them.



Quotes by John Wooden:
1. Don't Whine
2. Don't Complain
3. Don't make Excuses

You just violated all three. Accept your loss like a man.


Hah. I acknowledge that Mouz certainly earned that win and played very well, but any logical person can't deny that MVP didn't send out the best lineup possible, nor can a logical person deny that DRG played pretty badly relative to the standard he usually sets for himself. I'd rather analyze things carefully and consider all factors objectively rather than close my ears and chant "No whining, no excuses, nah nah nah". Mouz deserved the win for sure, especially with some amazing play from Thorzain, but MVP definitely didn't send out their best lineup, and DRG's weak performance was an exception, not a norm.


Violated all three yet again.
If you don't like that team losing. Get good at starcraft, join them, and dominate for them. Until then. Accept it.

I really can't find any other words so I'm just going to go right ahead and say that you are an idiot. Straight up moronic post on your behalf. Spectators have the right to critique professionals because we know what to expect from th; their level of performance is not some hidden knowledge. Holy arrow provided a clear, intelligent post as to why mouz's win is not earth shattering and you reply with possibly the dumbest rhetoric imaginable. Am I professional football player? No but that doesn't stop me from yelling and screaming when Suarez misses a sitter or plays like shit. You don't have to be a professional to criticize a professional..

And it would do you good to actually address holy arrow's points rather than just ignoring them as "whine"


Calling me an idiot solves nothing.

My point is that it accomplish's nothing to use all of these what-if scenarios. I'm saying to just accept that Mouz won. All of these excuses and whining about why one team lost is getting old.

On the thorzaine 5-0ing the first set. I am exspecting this. The only player who can take him out in a macro game would be keen. Although its about 50-50 between them lol.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 23 2011 01:52 GMT
#348
I think for the second IPL TAC the finals should be a Bo5, then a Bo9. The winner bracket still retains an advantage, but it doesn't become almost impossible to watch the finals in one sitting.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
December 23 2011 01:52 GMT
#349
lol another tvt.....
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 23 2011 01:53 GMT
#350
On December 23 2011 10:51 coko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:45 MCDayC wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:44 coko wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
wtf going mech and not having siege mode at 20mins???


He was going iEchoic-esque http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=189624

A build which barely worked at the best of times, and definitely doesn't work since the Hellion nerf. I'd love to say that Thorzain won the game due to his skill, but Apocalypse played terrible.


Never said it worked "well" just that it wasn't mech.

I think it was foolish to get cloaked banshee when your opponent's first starport unit was a raven ...


Yup. Maddening game, but I'm sure Yoda can show better. And then Thorzain can show even better than that!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 23 2011 01:54 GMT
#351
On December 23 2011 10:51 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.

TvT was his best match-up for a while, but I don't think it is his best match-up anymore.

Well, considering he said it was his best matchup at NASL 2, I don't know why it would change so quickly...
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#352
LOL painuser haha
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#353
I would love a Goody vs Tzain bo9 that would take some time..... :D

Come on Thorzain ! Pull the all kill :D. If not I hope MorroW gets a win somewhere along the way.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#354
On December 23 2011 10:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:51 Maenander wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.

TvT was his best match-up for a while, but I don't think it is his best match-up anymore.

Well, considering he said it was his best matchup at NASL 2, I don't know why it would change so quickly...

That was before he got destroyed by Puma ^^
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
December 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#355
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.


They want to wear him out. When it comes to a second Bo9, Thorzain's gonna have played 5 TvTs and will be exhausted. So they'll have one less player to worry about.
Always smile~
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
December 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#356
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.


was around 7am in korea during the time of the matches
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#357
On December 23 2011 10:56 Benjef wrote:
I would love a Goody vs Tzain bo9 that would take some time..... :D

Come on Thorzain ! Pull the all kill :D. If not I hope MorroW gets a win somewhere along the way.



Turtle vs. Spoon.

The ultimate flickfest TvT.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#358
On December 23 2011 10:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 10:51 Maenander wrote:
On December 23 2011 10:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
So why do they keep sending terrans at thorzain..? That's easily his best matchup, and he beat yoda last time.

TvT was his best match-up for a while, but I don't think it is his best match-up anymore.

Well, considering he said it was his best matchup at NASL 2, I don't know why it would change so quickly...


Based on his history I'd say it's his tvp, in fact that was what he was renowned for for awhile. It's also slightly higher with more games played statistically. But if he says so..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#359
Bo 18??? are you serious IPL -____-
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#360
On December 23 2011 10:59 tuho12345 wrote:
Bo 18??? are you serious IPL -____-


That's only if QIM loses the first Bo9.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
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