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NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 20 2011 01:54 GMT
#141
The second Yoda did that timing push at the start, he was way ahead of morrow. Morrow did a good job in getting back in the game but Yoda was way too far ahead.
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 01:55:54
December 20 2011 01:55 GMT
#142
That was a great Game 2 but I agree that Shattered with a gold is definitely tough ZvT

Morrow almost pulled it out but couldn't because he had to delay his tech so long.

Time for BIGS!
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 01:56:21
December 20 2011 01:55 GMT
#143
On December 20 2011 10:48 TheDougler wrote:
Such a back and forth game... Gonna be largely in Morrows favor for a bit, good for him for surviving against a gold-muling terran. That's a sketchy situation to be in.


True. Also: That first push. I know a few zerg players who would probably have gg´ed after losing like 20 drones.
Probs to morrow for making a entertaining game out of it. <3
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 20 2011 01:55 GMT
#144
On December 20 2011 10:53 Eury wrote:
Why are they still playing on such shitty maps?


Tournament in CS2 seems to have difficultues changing the map pool.
You are playing on somes 1 year and a half old maps already.

I guess that wont change until we can get blizzard to adapt ladder maps more often.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 20 2011 01:56 GMT
#145
On December 20 2011 10:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
There was a hero reaper at the 12 o'clock position who denied a fifth 6 times. I don't think Morrow ever realized that the reaper was there, and assumed it was dropped marines. That won the game for Yoda.


Wow, I didn't catch that O_O
MMA: The true King of Wings
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 20 2011 01:56 GMT
#146
On December 20 2011 10:53 Eury wrote:
Why are they still playing on such shitty maps?


I think because this is a foreigner tournament and you know... foreigner terrans aren't as good as Korean terrans compared to their protoss and Zerg counterparts so thus need more advantages.
Gameplay > Personality
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 20 2011 01:58 GMT
#147
biGs all-kill here we go
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
December 20 2011 01:59 GMT
#148
On December 20 2011 10:56 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 10:53 Eury wrote:
Why are they still playing on such shitty maps?


I think because this is a foreigner tournament and you know... foreigner terrans aren't as good as Korean terrans compared to their protoss and Zerg counterparts so thus need more advantages.


What is this nonsense? 100% disagree

This was a standard map pool up until a month ago when GSL removed gold bases. No bias no imba logic
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
December 20 2011 01:59 GMT
#149
On December 20 2011 10:54 NipponBanzai wrote:
The second Yoda did that timing push at the start, he was way ahead of morrow. Morrow did a good job in getting back in the game but Yoda was way too far ahead.


Yoda wasn't ahead after morrow took the middle of the map and killed all his marines. If morrow had gone hive faster and counter attacked more he could have been fine.
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
December 20 2011 02:00 GMT
#150
Maps are a tricky thing. On the one hand they can get really old real fast, on the other hand you can´t change them too often because the pros obviously need to have a ton of games on them in order to make for good games.

The whole map situation can get silly at some torunaments for having 50 different versions of the same map, but that´s besides the point. I think we need some kind of normalized map-pool for every tournament out there.

Moving on to the next game!
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 20 2011 02:00 GMT
#151
Lost the bunker as well cats.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 20 2011 02:04 GMT
#152
On December 20 2011 10:59 Recoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 10:56 wklbishop wrote:
On December 20 2011 10:53 Eury wrote:
Why are they still playing on such shitty maps?


I think because this is a foreigner tournament and you know... foreigner terrans aren't as good as Korean terrans compared to their protoss and Zerg counterparts so thus need more advantages.


What is this nonsense? 100% disagree

This was a standard map pool up until a month ago when GSL removed gold bases. No bias no imba logic


And why did the GSL remove the gold bases while foreign tournaments didn't?

The GSL removed it because Korean terrans were dominating the GSL and gave maps that favored protoss and Zerg by removing the Gold bases (Antiga for ex.). Foreigner tournaments just don't see the level of terran dominance the Koreans did so thus never had to remove the gold bases.
Gameplay > Personality
vtbarrera
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
December 20 2011 02:04 GMT
#153
QiM for the win!
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
December 20 2011 02:05 GMT
#154
Bigs getting outclassed!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 20 2011 02:05 GMT
#155
That was a pretty sex split I gotta admit
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 20 2011 02:06 GMT
#156
Yoda doubling bigs supply...not looking good.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 20 2011 02:08 GMT
#157
BiGs just got off to a really really bad start and YoDa never let him back into the game.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 20 2011 02:08 GMT
#158
Why would Mouz send out biGs to play vs Yoda? I mean, if Morrow can't beat him as Zerg, how is biGs gonna be able to?
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 02:11:26
December 20 2011 02:08 GMT
#159
I love Yoda exploiting Bigs lack of Spire tech by continuous dropping.

That tank drop in the main was sexy.

Also
On December 20 2011 11:04 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 10:59 Recoil wrote:
On December 20 2011 10:56 wklbishop wrote:
On December 20 2011 10:53 Eury wrote:
Why are they still playing on such shitty maps?


I think because this is a foreigner tournament and you know... foreigner terrans aren't as good as Korean terrans compared to their protoss and Zerg counterparts so thus need more advantages.


What is this nonsense? 100% disagree

This was a standard map pool up until a month ago when GSL removed gold bases. No bias no imba logic


And why did the GSL remove the gold bases while foreign tournaments didn't?

The GSL removed it because Korean terrans were dominating the GSL and gave maps that favored protoss and Zerg by removing the Gold bases (Antiga for ex.). Foreigner tournaments just don't see the level of terran dominance the Koreans did so thus never had to remove the gold bases.


I think they will I just think Foreign tournies will remove them. Sometimes tournaments just wait to see the results and then make a similar move.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
December 20 2011 02:09 GMT
#160
On December 20 2011 11:08 dizzy101 wrote:
Why would Mouz send out biGs to play vs Yoda? I mean, if Morrow can't beat him as Zerg, how is biGs gonna be able to?

It's a much better map for zvt (at least in cross position)
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