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DreamerX
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany19 Posts
December 18 2011 08:53 GMT
#1
Eizo Cup

Welcome to the Eizo Cup.

Eizo and Starcraft2TV are presenting you a StarCraft 2 Cup. The next Cup is on 20.12.2011.

The registration is already open for the cup. We have a Check-In 20mins before a cup will start to confirm you registration.



Eizo Cup - Prizes

1st Place: 100€+EV2315W-BK
2nd Place: 100€
3rd Place: 50€

Eizo Cup - The Streamers

Dennis 'TaKe' Gehlen


Cuppage
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
December 20 2011 19:08 GMT
#2
That one nuke... I don´t even know what just happened there.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
December 20 2011 19:13 GMT
#3
Hasu vs Horror should be good, i hope Take will cast it.
The Void
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 21:17:18
December 20 2011 21:16 GMT
#4
goody is imba

especially goody vs zerg
it is hard to be an atheist and deal with day9 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ also i stole this too ♞...o_O..oh..and his buddies ♚♛♜♝♟http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295038 don't trust the suits...
ShuttingFromTheSky
Profile Joined December 2011
Japan199 Posts
December 20 2011 21:18 GMT
#5
The Panzers have arrived in Korea!
The Void
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany428 Posts
December 20 2011 21:41 GMT
#6
On December 21 2011 06:18 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
The Panzers have arrived in Korea!

xD really ?
at least you know about them. tell your people or it could be to late... when they roll - they roll ^^
it is hard to be an atheist and deal with day9 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ also i stole this too ♞...o_O..oh..and his buddies ♚♛♜♝♟http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295038 don't trust the suits...
Darkfrog
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria211 Posts
December 20 2011 23:21 GMT
#7
That game was funny, I laughed hard at your jokes <3
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
January 26 2012 16:35 GMT
#8
very nice lineup
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 26 2012 16:40 GMT
#9
this is the best online tournament EVER

Kas dimaga hausobs stephano nerchio goody mana real syz beasty happy delphi diestar tarson xlord dbs moman TLO bling cloud cytoplasm naugrim..... and many more unknown EU gm's

thats a lineup every offline tournament would be happy with SIIIIIICK
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
January 26 2012 16:54 GMT
#10
mana likes gateways
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
January 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#11
Any referees online? BeastyQT seems to not have shown up and I am waiting for the previous round to end..
Team Liquidalea iacta est
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 26 2012 17:57 GMT
#12
maybe someone should update the OP....
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
January 26 2012 18:30 GMT
#13
Is there a bracket...?
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4728 Posts
January 26 2012 18:30 GMT
#14
http://eizo.starcraft2tv.de/en/cup/42/grid/eizo-cup-2.html
Here.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
January 26 2012 18:31 GMT
#15
Thankya kindly. I feel like this should be in the OP.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 26 2012 18:41 GMT
#16
gratz TLO for beating MaNa!!! Would this tourney count to get rid of the fur?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
ShuttingFromTheSky
Profile Joined December 2011
Japan199 Posts
January 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#17
hmm, Nerchio vs Polt in the semifinal. Not bad I'd say.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#18
1st place is 100 euros + something I can't recognize. What is it?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ManofWax
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy12 Posts
January 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#19
On January 27 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
1st place is 100 euros + something I can't recognize. What is it?


it's a monitor
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 26 2012 20:06 GMT
#20
who is on the account monchi?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
McGregsen
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:09:53
January 26 2012 20:06 GMT
#21
On January 27 2012 05:03 ManofWax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
1st place is 100 euros + something I can't recognize. What is it?


it's a monitor


Yes should be a monitor which is worth ~230-250€

EDIT:
According to the cuppage it's a Eizo FS2331 which is worth even more.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 20:09:53
January 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#22
Pretty sweet deal. Thanks for the explanation.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 26 2012 20:15 GMT
#23
On January 27 2012 05:06 Mattchew wrote:
who is on the account monchi?


I just tuned in but I would guess it's monchi himself?!
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 26 2012 20:19 GMT
#24
ah (P)monchi never had heard of him
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
StorM__
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany118 Posts
January 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#25
polt vs stephano coming up
sirchen
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom37 Posts
January 26 2012 20:38 GMT
#26
Take + Delfi + HasuObs - super sweet casting combo (if you speak german). Looking forward to the final between Polt and Stephano (which happens after the game for place 3 between monchi / nerchio).
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 26 2012 20:50 GMT
#27
seriously how can koreans play so good in european cups, their lag must be ridiculous, so impressive..
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
January 26 2012 21:13 GMT
#28
stephano vs polt and no english stream?
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
McGregsen
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany110 Posts
January 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#29
I'm really sorry for all the non german speaking folks. Very good knowledge+entertainment on the german stream.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#30
On January 27 2012 05:19 Mattchew wrote:
ah (P)monchi never had heard of him


He got rly good and then got his arm broken I think. Only back since 2-3 weeks? Probably one of the bigger talents.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:49:00
January 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#31
Didn't expect Polt to use his ladder build vs Stephano.
Pretty cool to see, although I was doubting it was Polt at first because he kind of messed it up, he usually brings 3 scvs for that initial pressure.
I wonder how much lag he gets playing on EU.
Also, as awesome as it is, Polt is showing up EVERYWHERE now, I wonder why is that happening?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 21:50:03
January 26 2012 21:49 GMT
#32
pretty sloopy at points from polt. to be expected if hes been playing all night tho.

thoes banshees did good damage tho
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 21:52 GMT
#33
That's such a strange build.
Eco 2rax expand into double port banshee ? If his banshee don't do that much damage ( and he was a bit lucky that stephano didn't chase every banshee with mutas ) you're so far behind on the marine tank push.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#34
damn Stephano that Ovi
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 26 2012 21:56 GMT
#35
wtf is this? never seen stephano play so atrociously bad
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
January 26 2012 21:59 GMT
#36
so silly, 1 scv and still in the game...
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
January 26 2012 21:59 GMT
#37
Double mules is crazy.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#38
multitask fail or maybe lag.

polt could have won that.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#39
On January 27 2012 06:59 hrvoje07 wrote:
so silly, 1 scv and still in the game...


stephano was only slightly behind in income :D
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#40
On January 27 2012 06:59 hrvoje07 wrote:
so silly, 1 scv and still in the game...


2 Orbitals vs ~15 drones is still playable.
Polt could have won that a few times as well, but played a bit sloppy again.
Well done by Stephano with the counter attacks.
.syL
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany85 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#41
At least the German cast is hilarious
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#42
Once he lost all the hellions it didn't matter.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 26 2012 22:00 GMT
#43
What are those games? Both look like they play 2 levels below their potential.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:01:54
January 26 2012 22:01 GMT
#44
On January 27 2012 06:59 Megatronn wrote:
Double mules is crazy.


For your safety and sanity, you probably shouldn't check our income on fast 3 CCs then.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:04 GMT
#45
For those unaware, like I was (took a little bit of effort to find the bracket online), this is the finals between Polt and Stephano for this tournament.
I think it's 1-1? 3rd game on shakuras.
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
January 26 2012 22:05 GMT
#46
On January 27 2012 06:56 Tsubbi wrote:
wtf is this? never seen stephano play so atrociously bad

either for fun or because he want to stop playing SC for this night ^^ ( he's in the gaming house... )

On January 27 2012 06:59 hrvoje07 wrote:
so silly, 1 scv and still in the game...

On January 27 2012 06:59 Megatronn wrote:
Double mules is crazy.


Sometimes i burn like 90% of zerg's drones, but with some money and larvae one minute later he had the same amount :D
T can mule just after to had an income, but cannot recover in long term like a Z who make mass drones to recover (and hop T doesn't attack ^^ )
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
January 26 2012 22:06 GMT
#47
On January 27 2012 07:05 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:56 Tsubbi wrote:
wtf is this? never seen stephano play so atrociously bad

either for fun or because he want to stop playing SC for this night ^^ ( he's in the gaming house... )

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:59 hrvoje07 wrote:
so silly, 1 scv and still in the game...

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 06:59 Megatronn wrote:
Double mules is crazy.


Sometimes i burn like 90% of zerg's drones, but with some money and larvae one minute later he had the same amount :D
T can mule just after to had an income, but cannot recover in long term like a Z who make mass drones to recover (and hop T doesn't attack ^^ )

If you attack right as he wastes all that larvae you win.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 26 2012 22:09 GMT
#48
stephano is dead as fuck imo ^^
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
January 26 2012 22:09 GMT
#49
Not getting the baneling nest was a pretty bad move :/
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#50
On January 27 2012 07:09 ragnorr wrote:
Not getting the baneling nest was a pretty bad move :/


Yeah, very greedy.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#51
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#52
seriously is stephano drunk? bling distracting him?
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#53
Wow, both of these guys are really sloppy, especially Stephano. Is this played on NA?
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
January 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#54
or just more spines/glings (like 3 spines)

He seems a bit off tonight
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:12:37
January 26 2012 22:11 GMT
#55
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


His games show the power of timings and how to intuit them. Even his sloppy micro this game doesn't matter because he is always hitting Stephano when he's weakest. And that's pretty incredible considering that he is never scanning to see the tech.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 26 2012 22:11 GMT
#56
On January 27 2012 07:10 Qaatar wrote:
Wow, both of these guys are really sloppy, especially Stephano. Is this played on NA?

don't think so, most probably on EU which would atleast say why Polt isn't playing his best.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 22:12 GMT
#57
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
January 26 2012 22:12 GMT
#58
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:12 GMT
#59
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


As terran, Polt's games are the easiest to learn from. x) ( Polt stream is one of the best to learn terran, even if polt don't commentate )
I guess the two idea have are tied.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 26 2012 22:13 GMT
#60
On January 27 2012 07:12 JohnMatrix wrote:
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.


It's 7:13am in korea right now, which means polt has been playing all through the night.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 26 2012 22:16 GMT
#61
On January 27 2012 07:13 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:12 JohnMatrix wrote:
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.


It's 7:13am in korea right now, which means polt has been playing all through the night.

which isn't that unusual for progamers, or am i wrong? O_o although stephano was one of those who always claimed to practise not much.

7:13 am sounds tough, but who knows how polts sleeping patterns are right now ^^
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
January 26 2012 22:19 GMT
#62
On January 27 2012 07:13 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:12 JohnMatrix wrote:
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.


It's 7:13am in korea right now, which means polt has been playing all through the night.


hm but if he enters in this cup he knew it could end late.

btw too bad Polt only try cheese build I hope we will see some macro games
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:20:44
January 26 2012 22:20 GMT
#63
On January 27 2012 07:19 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 JohnMatrix wrote:
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.


It's 7:13am in korea right now, which means polt has been playing all through the night.


hm but if he enters in this cup he knew it could end late.

btw too bad Polt only try cheese build I hope we will see some macro games

his latency gotta be crap so i guess cheesy builds are better.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:22:02
January 26 2012 22:21 GMT
#64
On January 27 2012 07:19 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 JohnMatrix wrote:
stephano is playing since 2pm cet something like that.


It's 7:13am in korea right now, which means polt has been playing all through the night.


hm but if he enters in this cup he knew it could end late.

btw too bad Polt only try cheese build I hope we will see some macro games


Well, of course he knew he would play late. The point is, playing all night like that is a lot harder than starting at 2pm, which is mid afternoon, since you implied stephano would be tired. He can't be more tired than polt.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#65
so it's bo5?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#66
Polt play throught the night a lot these days.
Atleast i saw him online very late often recently.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#67
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#68
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:29:07
January 26 2012 22:26 GMT
#69
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Nothing's higher than #1 GM (which he was for 5 days).

Polt has better micro and tactics than MMA, which is why he beats MMA most of the time and it's close whenever MMA wins. MMA has a larger assortment of builds and gets far more aggressive.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:28 GMT
#70
On January 27 2012 07:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Nothing's higher than #1 GM.

Polt has better micro and tactics than MMA, which is why he beats MMA most of the time and it's close whenever MMA wins.


It's pretty obvious those comments were made with little to no knowledge on of the player.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:29:56
January 26 2012 22:28 GMT
#71
2 2, interesting final, last game was a nice win by Stephano. Both have been playing for hours now (Stephano is around 40 games played today ), so we will see who has the most endurance

Meh, I don't see Stephano win against a terran on this map =/
Shadow and dust
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:30:12
January 26 2012 22:29 GMT
#72
On January 27 2012 07:28 MrCash wrote:
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On January 27 2012 07:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Nothing's higher than #1 GM.

Polt has better micro and tactics than MMA, which is why he beats MMA most of the time and it's close whenever MMA wins.


It's pretty obvious those comments were made with little to no knowledge on of the player.


I think my knowledge of both players is more than sufficient, thank you.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:31 GMT
#73
On January 27 2012 07:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:28 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Nothing's higher than #1 GM.

Polt has better micro and tactics than MMA, which is why he beats MMA most of the time and it's close whenever MMA wins.


It's pretty obvious those comments were made with little to no knowledge on of the player.


I think my knowledge of both players is more than sufficient, thank you.


This is becoming somewhat spammy, but I was referring to the guy you were responding to initially.
As in, I agreed with you.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:32 GMT
#74
Oh god.. Polt really want to go sleep it seems. :D
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:34:45
January 26 2012 22:33 GMT
#75
NICE hold by Stephano :o
Now he can win this, I thought Polt would have tried tank abuse.
Shadow and dust
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 22:34 GMT
#76
On January 27 2012 07:31 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:28 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Nothing's higher than #1 GM.

Polt has better micro and tactics than MMA, which is why he beats MMA most of the time and it's close whenever MMA wins.


It's pretty obvious those comments were made with little to no knowledge on of the player.


I think my knowledge of both players is more than sufficient, thank you.


This is becoming somewhat spammy, but I was referring to the guy you were responding to initially.
As in, I agreed with you.


Well, I apologize for being grumpy. ^^
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 22:35 GMT
#77
On January 27 2012 07:24 Jampackedeon wrote:
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On January 27 2012 07:12 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Polt's sense of timing and bio control is arguably the best in the world - it's why he can consistently beat MMA using bio.


Which is why he eventually gets crushed when his "sense of timing" is ever off, especially when skilled macro/tactical players like MMA and Stephano catch on. Ultimately he can only go up so far on the ladder playing the way he does.


Timing is a large part of what constitutes 'strategy' in RTS games. Funny enough, Stephano is a player with a great sense of timing - that last game is a perfect example. Do you think if Stephano waited a couple more minutes for Polt to mule up on his 3rd base, and finish adding reactors to his barracks, that the midgame would have gone in his favor? Stephano knew Polt was macro'ing up, and attacked at just the right time.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:38:15
January 26 2012 22:36 GMT
#78
On January 27 2012 07:33 Ylrahc wrote:
NICE hold by Stephano :o
Now he can win this, I thought Polt would have tried tank abuse.


That was a really impressive hold, I really didn't think Stephano would have enough.
Polt might still try to pressure with tanks, but in those positions it's not as strong because it's much easier to get a surround and cut off reinforcements.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 26 2012 22:38 GMT
#79
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
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On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 22:39 GMT
#80
Very well played by Stephano.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
January 26 2012 22:39 GMT
#81
Sick win by Stephano, exact timings to defend the push, then perfect pressure to close the game. Well played imho.
Shadow and dust
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
January 26 2012 22:39 GMT
#82
Nice games.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:39 GMT
#83
gg Stephano.
The first hold was impressive. Polt overxtended himself a bit by taking this third with an orbital. Not enough unit to defend the two entrance, and he got caught ensieged.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#84
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
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On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.


You mean the player who used timings attacks just like his opponent? What a hypocrite.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#85
GG Stephano! EIZO monitors are sick! :o)

A French vs. a Korean casted in German. It was interesting! :D
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#86
Same prize money for first and second (no monitor for 2nd place), but both players still showed nice games.
Polt definitely didn't show his best, but it's understandable.
GGs, would be nice to have an English stream next time!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#87
the german cast was hilarious, so funny, take hasu and naruto :>
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
January 26 2012 22:40 GMT
#88
Decent games from stephano in game 4-5. Pretty terrible games from polt tho
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#89
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
January 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#90
very nice games. and hilarious casting by take/hasu/delphi/naruto ty guys!
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
January 26 2012 22:43 GMT
#91
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.

Stephano has been playing nonstop since 11 AM in the morning, you can hardly say he was rested, he was probably as tired as Polt. However, lag does have an influence when a korean plays on EU servers.

Excellent last two games by Stephano nonetheless, the marauders / hellion push was extremly scary, and not many players would have hold it.
Shadow and dust
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
January 26 2012 22:43 GMT
#92
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.


Lag is 500ms max. If lag was that much high Polt would never played in european cup.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#93
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.


Agreed. Which is why I never put any stock into online results, when koreans play with such bad lag. Kr-NA has more manageable lag, but KR-EU is basically unplayable as stated in TSL 3, when they listed it as a reason for all KR-EU games to be played on NA server.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#94
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.


No need to go that far, but yeah, neither player played very well.

Clutch from Stephano to pull it out at the end though.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
January 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#95
The last game was denifinetly high level play.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 22:45 GMT
#96
Congratulations to Stephano. He played the last game perfectly.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
January 26 2012 22:45 GMT
#97
The cast was really good. Much input and nice discussions. On top my favorite player stephano wins, nice eve
barny94
Profile Joined April 2010
France39 Posts
January 26 2012 22:46 GMT
#98
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !

Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 22:48 GMT
#99
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

Show nested quote +
MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


glad he's not as much a fanboy as his fanboys

respect
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
January 26 2012 22:48 GMT
#100
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

Show nested quote +
MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions
DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
January 26 2012 22:51 GMT
#101
On January 27 2012 07:48 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


glad he's not as much a fanboy as his fanboys

respect


your last post wasnt fanboyish at all.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 26 2012 22:52 GMT
#102
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
January 26 2012 22:54 GMT
#103
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


You won't find me disagreeing that they should meet on an even battlefield! My only complaint is on the STYLE of games, which (for me) affects the quality of them. Not on the quality of Polt as a player.

Also, yes... I am a Stephano fanboy. So what?
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 22:54 GMT
#104
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 22:55 GMT
#105
On January 27 2012 07:51 DirtyCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:48 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


glad he's not as much a fanboy as his fanboys

respect


your last post wasnt fanboyish at all.

not a polt fanboy
im a foreigner hype antifan, tho i do like idra kas and nerchio
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 22:56 GMT
#106
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 26 2012 22:57 GMT
#107
On January 27 2012 07:43 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.


Lag is 500ms max. If lag was that much high Polt would never played in european cup.


lol yeah.. only 500ms.
I don't know if you realize how hard it is to play with 500ms.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:00:20
January 26 2012 22:58 GMT
#108
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


well it will only depends on the mapool I think, shattered and metaloplis air close position are highly terran favour (and we have seen this clearly in their games). its quite harsh to say Stephano would have zero chances to win.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 22:59:03
January 26 2012 22:58 GMT
#109
On January 27 2012 07:43 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:41 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:38 Jampackedeon wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:24 MrCash wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:10 Jampackedeon wrote:
Polt has to play the most un-gratifying style of Terran on the planet. His games never teach me anything other than that marines are really annoying.


Then your understanding of how terran works is fundamentally flawed.
He has very precisely thought out builds that account for every stage of the game. Has insane understanding of timings and positioning. And to boot has top level mechanics out there.
I've gotten to high masters using almost nothing but his builds.


And I think we see with these games that there is a ceiling to using timing attacks as well, I believe the better player won today.

No, we haven't. You saw a Polt at 7:39 AM playing with the ridiculous KR->EU lag barely lose 3-2 to a foreigner warmed up from todays cups, playing on his own server for no latency, feet resting in his team house.


Lag is 500ms max. If lag was that much high Polt would never played in european cup.

I know it takes like 5 clicks to micro zerg (dropping units around the army, target units with baneling, throw fungal)

But you actually have to target fire with tanks and split to get away from fungal as terran
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:01:00
January 26 2012 23:00 GMT
#110
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA

Well Stephano is a class above IdrA Morrow or Kas atm, he shows it every second day...
I don't know where that puts him on a Korean ladder, but upper-middle tier Korean pros sounds fine And it's more or less backed up by his results at the GSL Blizz Cup and on the ladder in Korea, high tier koreans give him a rough time (MVP, MC) but he is more or less even against many others.
Shadow and dust
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 23:01 GMT
#111
On January 27 2012 08:00 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA

Well Stephano is a class above IdrA Morrow or Kas atm, he shows it every second day...
I don't know where that puts him on a Korean ladder, but upper-middle tier Korean pros sounds fine (and it's more or less backed up by his results at the GSL Blizz Cup and on the ladder in Korea, high tier koreans give him a rough time (MVP, MC) but he is more or less even against many others.

TvZ IdrA is better, Zvz I don't know, think Stephano better, ZvP stephano better
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 23:03 GMT
#112
On January 27 2012 08:01 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 08:00 Ylrahc wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA

Well Stephano is a class above IdrA Morrow or Kas atm, he shows it every second day...
I don't know where that puts him on a Korean ladder, but upper-middle tier Korean pros sounds fine (and it's more or less backed up by his results at the GSL Blizz Cup and on the ladder in Korea, high tier koreans give him a rough time (MVP, MC) but he is more or less even against many others.

TvZ IdrA is better, Zvz I don't know, think Stephano better, ZvP stephano better


Edit: His results werent backed up at blizzard cup, he beat DRG in a ZvZ (who has arguably low zvz) and he beat Hero (...yeah)
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
January 26 2012 23:04 GMT
#113
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA



i get your point but.....no.
Stephano is vastly superior to idra,morrow and kas,as for his level compared to koreans,without taking his kr ladder time into consideration(where he proved he could easily win but eh thats ladder),the only tournament we can observe is blizzard cup:
won vs hero and drg,lost vs mc and mvp.
that clearly points towards upper-middle tier.
oh btw,kas is also better than idra.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 26 2012 23:04 GMT
#114
Stephano wasn't playing great, but it was nice to see him with a lot of different openings. Ling+infestor, roach, muta. It will make it much harder for his opponents in the future.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:06:44
January 26 2012 23:05 GMT
#115
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA


I actually don't rate ryung that high myself. I've been calling him the Inca of terran for a long time cause he's a TvT specialist to me. His TvZ is nothing special as I remember him playing pretty bad against july zerg. His TvP relies on 1-1-1 timings like puma and I remember him playing ridiculous 20 min 1 base games against Puzzle.

On January 27 2012 08:04 clementdudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA



i get your point but.....no.
Stephano is vastly superior to idra,morrow and kas,as for his level compared to koreans,without taking his kr ladder time into consideration(where he proved he could easily win but eh thats ladder),the only tournament we can observe is blizzard cup:
won vs hero and drg,lost vs mc and mvp.
that clearly points towards upper-middle tier.
oh btw,kas is also better than idra.


We also have home story where stephano went 0-6 against, sound, mkp and mc.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 26 2012 23:06 GMT
#116
On January 27 2012 08:04 clementdudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA



i get your point but.....no.
Stephano is vastly superior to idra,morrow and kas,as for his level compared to koreans,without taking his kr ladder time into consideration(where he proved he could easily win but eh thats ladder),the only tournament we can observe is blizzard cup:
won vs hero and drg,lost vs mc and mvp.
that clearly points towards upper-middle tier.
oh btw,kas is also better than idra.

I don't care whether Kas is bterr then Idra or Idra kas

Code S > top code A > Stephano, Idra, Naniwa, Huk etc > Mid Code A > Code B > Foreigners
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:08:13
January 26 2012 23:07 GMT
#117
On January 27 2012 08:05 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA


I actually don't rate ryung that high myself. I've been calling him the Inca of terran for a long time cause he's a TvT specialist to me. His TvZ is nothing special as I remember him playing pretty bad against july zerg. His TvP relies on 1-1-1 timings like puma and I remember him playing ridiculous 20 min 1 base games against Puzzle.

yeah
Slayers T generally have weak TvP, except for Taeja


We also have home story where stephano went 0-6 against, sound, mkp and mc.

Good Point
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
January 26 2012 23:10 GMT
#118
granted sound isnt top tier kr,mkp and mc....
halim42
Profile Joined June 2011
France95 Posts
January 26 2012 23:11 GMT
#119
stephano level is code s 100% stop with top code a > it'wrong
DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:30:43
January 26 2012 23:12 GMT
#120
fOrGG ♦ Creator
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 23:12 GMT
#121
I'd rate Stephano far above Idra, Morrow, especially Kas. I just don't understand what's so impressive about a guy's macro when he only masses two or three types of units, rarely harasses while playing extremely greedy, and pushes out with his entire army. It's the Bomber effect, when he masses marines without many medivacs thereby not needing much gas, and just pumps marine after marine. I'm sure the SQ is extremely high, but it's not an effective way to play. Yeah, the army looks gigantic...so what?

Honestly, I don't think there is a foreigner close to Stephano's level right now. And, I'm not even close to a Stephano fanboy.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 26 2012 23:14 GMT
#122
Variance exists. Form exists.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 26 2012 23:14 GMT
#123
stephano is fucking good but i thought it's still strange to see polt who's main hook is his battle control and micro barely micro his units in what is essentially an all in..
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:18:36
January 26 2012 23:16 GMT
#124
On January 27 2012 08:06 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 08:04 clementdudu wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA



i get your point but.....no.
Stephano is vastly superior to idra,morrow and kas,as for his level compared to koreans,without taking his kr ladder time into consideration(where he proved he could easily win but eh thats ladder),the only tournament we can observe is blizzard cup:
won vs hero and drg,lost vs mc and mvp.
that clearly points towards upper-middle tier.
oh btw,kas is also better than idra.

I don't care whether Kas is bterr then Idra or Idra kas

Code S > top code A > Stephano, Idra, Naniwa, Huk etc > Mid Code A > Code B > Foreigners

That's your opinion, that doesn't make it a fact. Besides we all know how volatile Code A / S is, so well...

HSC was arguably THE bad result for Stephano in january, he just came back from Korea (his plane landed hours before he started playing), eager to see his family and probably not in the mood to play but more to enjoy some quality time. Still, his result was descent. Apart from that, he crushes best europeans left and right without breaking a sweat, with a random loss here and there because you can't win everything.

And still, many say he is a hype, he is overrated, etc. Hell sure, he hasn't the level to win a GSL, but come on, his results are better than ANY other non-korean player (at least $$$ wise, and arguably palmares wise as well), he HAS shown consistensy since late summer 2011 (check his liquidpedia page) with some downs here and there, like any other players except the very best, and still he deserves the cold treatment, "sorry, not that good". I don't get it

Anyway, not really the place to remake a beaten to death argument, so wp Stephano & Polt, and thanks for the german casting, I enjoyed it and actually was able to understand some of it
Shadow and dust
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 23:24 GMT
#125
On January 27 2012 08:14 GreyKnight wrote:
stephano is fucking good but i thought it's still strange to see polt who's main hook is his battle control and micro barely micro his units in what is essentially an all in..


I imagine that Polt, awake at 7:30 a.m. in Korea, preferred to do builds that would end the games quickly. It was uncharacteristic to see so many early pressure builds in a BO5.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#126
What makes Stephano the best foreigner isn't the money earned, nor the APM, style, strategies, etc. It's his mental power. He just doesn't give a fuck who he's playing. All other foreigners (maybe Dimaga is an exception, but sometimes I don't get him) shit their pants when playing Koreans...
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 27 2012 04:37 GMT
#127
On January 27 2012 08:11 halim42 wrote:
stephano level is code s 100% stop with top code a > it'wrong


The only way you can say he is code s 100% is if he flies over and gets in code s [and by playing his way in, not getting a silly invite].
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
January 27 2012 12:16 GMT
#128
Seeing as half the players in Code S end up in Code A immediately anyway is Code S/top Code A not a bit of a meaningless distinction? Either way, to me Stephano is clearly head and shoulders above any other foreigner right now, especially with the likes of Huk, Thorzain and NaNiwa looking not quite at their best at the moment.
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
January 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#129
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA


stephano rapes players like losira etc...

he is slightly above S-class, so he's between BW Pros like Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sc2 S Class (MMa, MK)
EX 1: MMA vs Flash
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 27 2012 17:49 GMT
#130
Where can I find vods for the final of this Cup?
ZagIs
Profile Joined October 2009
France23 Posts
January 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#131
Good question cyclone25. I am really curious to see the final.
In fantasy proleague it is a question of skill and strategy. Obviously I am missing them ^^
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
February 23 2012 17:55 GMT
#132
http://www.own3d.tv/live/175835

HQ Stream for this Cup.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#133
Anyone have a link to the brackets?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
CosmoK
Profile Joined July 2011
339 Posts
February 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#134
Here you go:
http://eizo.starcraft2tv.de/en/cup/45/grid/eizo-cup-3.html
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 22 2012 18:28 GMT
#135
Did Goody switch to protoss completely? He's just playing vs Sjow and he picked protoss... tvt was his best matchup as terran, wasn't it?

Looking pretty solid as protoss btw!
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#136
why only German commentary? c'mon...
oh in the sun sun having fun
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
July 19 2012 20:02 GMT
#137
nice job by stw taking out symbol 2-0
i hope kaup can win vs nerchio to make it an all german final gogo ~
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Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
July 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#138
On July 20 2012 05:02 sVnteen wrote:
nice job by stw taking out symbol 2-0

Never in a million years would i even consider that this is possible O.O
WP Salt!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#139
huh...no idea who that SaltTheWound Guy is, but looks quite impressive :O
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#140
ok running banelings into dustinrocks wasn't that smart
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
July 19 2012 20:48 GMT
#141
TypeSTW is from Type gaming obvious
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
Urbz
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 21:22:16
July 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#142
Ugh so sour for STW.
Sick run nonetheless, especially the ZvZ. Taking out Dimaga, Symbol and almost taking down Nerchio in the final.
Well played, hope to see more of you!

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
July 19 2012 21:20 GMT
#143
He must be feeling terrible right now, so close yet so far WP anyway, STW.

Gratz to Nerchio for winning yet another tournament!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
fR.INDI
Profile Joined June 2003
Germany50 Posts
July 19 2012 21:22 GMT
#144
wp STW keep going !!!
Florix
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany116 Posts
July 19 2012 21:27 GMT
#145
TypeSaltTheRocks
7P inc.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 19 2012 21:28 GMT
#146
lack of experience i'd guess, looked good anyway.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 19 2012 23:35 GMT
#147
Damn, I missed STW's big moment I guess

Never thought of him as a player THAT good, but I like his casting on TakeTV
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
July 19 2012 23:40 GMT
#148
"shitkid" [ (c) hasuobs ] strikes again
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
AMaidensWrath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Belgium206 Posts
July 20 2012 05:45 GMT
#149
Gratz to Salt for that awesome run! Keep it going!
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