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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 23:12 GMT
#121
I'd rate Stephano far above Idra, Morrow, especially Kas. I just don't understand what's so impressive about a guy's macro when he only masses two or three types of units, rarely harasses while playing extremely greedy, and pushes out with his entire army. It's the Bomber effect, when he masses marines without many medivacs thereby not needing much gas, and just pumps marine after marine. I'm sure the SQ is extremely high, but it's not an effective way to play. Yeah, the army looks gigantic...so what?

Honestly, I don't think there is a foreigner close to Stephano's level right now. And, I'm not even close to a Stephano fanboy.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 26 2012 23:14 GMT
#122
Variance exists. Form exists.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 26 2012 23:14 GMT
#123
stephano is fucking good but i thought it's still strange to see polt who's main hook is his battle control and micro barely micro his units in what is essentially an all in..
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 23:18:36
January 26 2012 23:16 GMT
#124
On January 27 2012 08:06 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 08:04 clementdudu wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA



i get your point but.....no.
Stephano is vastly superior to idra,morrow and kas,as for his level compared to koreans,without taking his kr ladder time into consideration(where he proved he could easily win but eh thats ladder),the only tournament we can observe is blizzard cup:
won vs hero and drg,lost vs mc and mvp.
that clearly points towards upper-middle tier.
oh btw,kas is also better than idra.

I don't care whether Kas is bterr then Idra or Idra kas

Code S > top code A > Stephano, Idra, Naniwa, Huk etc > Mid Code A > Code B > Foreigners

That's your opinion, that doesn't make it a fact. Besides we all know how volatile Code A / S is, so well...

HSC was arguably THE bad result for Stephano in january, he just came back from Korea (his plane landed hours before he started playing), eager to see his family and probably not in the mood to play but more to enjoy some quality time. Still, his result was descent. Apart from that, he crushes best europeans left and right without breaking a sweat, with a random loss here and there because you can't win everything.

And still, many say he is a hype, he is overrated, etc. Hell sure, he hasn't the level to win a GSL, but come on, his results are better than ANY other non-korean player (at least $$$ wise, and arguably palmares wise as well), he HAS shown consistensy since late summer 2011 (check his liquidpedia page) with some downs here and there, like any other players except the very best, and still he deserves the cold treatment, "sorry, not that good". I don't get it

Anyway, not really the place to remake a beaten to death argument, so wp Stephano & Polt, and thanks for the german casting, I enjoyed it and actually was able to understand some of it
Shadow and dust
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 26 2012 23:24 GMT
#125
On January 27 2012 08:14 GreyKnight wrote:
stephano is fucking good but i thought it's still strange to see polt who's main hook is his battle control and micro barely micro his units in what is essentially an all in..


I imagine that Polt, awake at 7:30 a.m. in Korea, preferred to do builds that would end the games quickly. It was uncharacteristic to see so many early pressure builds in a BO5.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
January 27 2012 00:36 GMT
#126
What makes Stephano the best foreigner isn't the money earned, nor the APM, style, strategies, etc. It's his mental power. He just doesn't give a fuck who he's playing. All other foreigners (maybe Dimaga is an exception, but sometimes I don't get him) shit their pants when playing Koreans...
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 27 2012 04:37 GMT
#127
On January 27 2012 08:11 halim42 wrote:
stephano level is code s 100% stop with top code a > it'wrong


The only way you can say he is code s 100% is if he flies over and gets in code s [and by playing his way in, not getting a silly invite].
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
January 27 2012 12:16 GMT
#128
Seeing as half the players in Code S end up in Code A immediately anyway is Code S/top Code A not a bit of a meaningless distinction? Either way, to me Stephano is clearly head and shoulders above any other foreigner right now, especially with the likes of Huk, Thorzain and NaNiwa looking not quite at their best at the moment.
FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
January 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#129
On January 27 2012 07:56 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 07:54 Qaatar wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:52 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:48 ragnorr wrote:
On January 27 2012 07:46 barny94 wrote:
Don t worry Stephano is not Dumb. He knows what kind of victory this is. Live from his Twitter :

MillStephano
Went 3-2 against Polt for the eizo cup, even if he played from korea on eu serv, it's still a small victory !


hopefully they meet at assembly so both are playing in same conditions


That I would like to see as well because I don't believe polt would lose to stephano when both are playing under the same conditions.


I'm not so sure. TvZ is arguably Polt's weakest matchup.

Either way, I think even the most diehard Korean fans accept by now that Stephano is around the level of upper-middle tier Korean progamers (i.e. guys like Taeja, Alive, Keen, Ryung, etc.). No shame in Polt losing, especially cross-server.

No, he's like low tier Kor progamer, like IdrA, Morrow, Kas, etc, They are all around people like "avenge's" level

Taeja, alive, Keen and Ryung are far above all foreigners
EX 1: Taeja vs IdrA


stephano rapes players like losira etc...

he is slightly above S-class, so he's between BW Pros like Jaedong, Flash, Bisu and Sc2 S Class (MMa, MK)
EX 1: MMA vs Flash
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 27 2012 17:49 GMT
#130
Where can I find vods for the final of this Cup?
ZagIs
Profile Joined October 2009
France23 Posts
January 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#131
Good question cyclone25. I am really curious to see the final.
In fantasy proleague it is a question of skill and strategy. Obviously I am missing them ^^
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
February 23 2012 17:55 GMT
#132
http://www.own3d.tv/live/175835

HQ Stream for this Cup.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#133
Anyone have a link to the brackets?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
CosmoK
Profile Joined July 2011
339 Posts
February 23 2012 18:54 GMT
#134
Here you go:
http://eizo.starcraft2tv.de/en/cup/45/grid/eizo-cup-3.html
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 22 2012 18:28 GMT
#135
Did Goody switch to protoss completely? He's just playing vs Sjow and he picked protoss... tvt was his best matchup as terran, wasn't it?

Looking pretty solid as protoss btw!
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#136
why only German commentary? c'mon...
oh in the sun sun having fun
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
July 19 2012 20:02 GMT
#137
nice job by stw taking out symbol 2-0
i hope kaup can win vs nerchio to make it an all german final gogo ~
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
July 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#138
On July 20 2012 05:02 sVnteen wrote:
nice job by stw taking out symbol 2-0

Never in a million years would i even consider that this is possible O.O
WP Salt!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#139
huh...no idea who that SaltTheWound Guy is, but looks quite impressive :O
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#140
ok running banelings into dustinrocks wasn't that smart
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
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