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[IPL] Fight Club 5: GanZi vs. Kas - Page 4

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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
December 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#61
How did Kas throw that away -_
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
December 18 2011 02:42 GMT
#62
kas lagging so bad
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 02:45 GMT
#63
Ganzi has flashes of brillances and flashes of play that remind me of Ensnare or somebody.
He's lucky Kas is starting to drop the ball
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45175 Posts
December 18 2011 02:45 GMT
#64
Wow at the moment the score is

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3-3


O,O Ganzi gogogo!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
December 18 2011 02:46 GMT
#65
On December 18 2011 11:23 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 11:12 Jombozeus wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:06 vdale wrote:
On December 18 2011 10:52 Jombozeus wrote:
Hmm. I am interested to know the difference in latency between EU -> NA and KR -> NA.

I don't want to take anything away from Kas, but Ganzi is obviously much better than this showing of micro. The fact that latency to NA might be different makes KR vs. EU quite unfair.


It doesn't make sense to talk about that. Nobody knows how the lag was from Ukraine or Korea at the day it was played (it's not always the same).

If you think lag is the reason why a player is losing, then don't watch the matches.

Kas showed that he can take down players like MarineKing in Korea on the Korean Server (2-0 in WCG).


1. The difference in lag each day is inconsequential and negligible in the big picture. If one fluctuates between 250-300ms on a daily basis compared to 500-550ms...

2. I play from Asia right now, and I have about 800ms, knowing Korea has better internet might make this slightly better, but the vast majority of the Korean internet speed is dictated by its local fibers, not the cross-pacific ones that run through Japan.

3. I posted that before the F-bomb.

4. I know Ganzi on a semi-personal level, and trust me he won't drop the F-bomb unless hes extremely frustrated, I think this can be said for all Koreans.

5. "I don't want to take anything away from Kas."

6. It was a genuine question.


I'm just saying that if a player agrees to play somewhere or on a server, he shouldn't complain and the viewers shouldn't talk about any excuses. It takes away the fun from the matches.

It's the same with jet lag, too much traveling, etc. I just don't like it.


There are very human problems with these very human players too. I respect your opinion, but your argument, "I just don't like it," is not enough to convince me not to bring it up. I would rather voice my opinion so a better system can be figured out or at least acknowledged by IPL, than to keep it inside and pretend nothing is wrong.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 18 2011 02:47 GMT
#66
How could they forget nada lol
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 02:47 GMT
#67
HD/Pain how can you forget NADA!!
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45175 Posts
December 18 2011 02:48 GMT
#68
On December 18 2011 11:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
How could they forget nada lol


Yeah agreed. They're naming famous Terran gosus and they say "Boxer, oov, Flash... upmagic."

Whaaaat?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 18 2011 02:49 GMT
#69
On December 18 2011 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow at the moment the score is

+ Show Spoiler +
3-3


O,O Ganzi gogogo!

Kas is very good at TvT, it's not THAT surprising.
Beating MarineKing in his home country is no small feat.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 18 2011 02:49 GMT
#70
upmagic haha
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
December 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#71
I have no idea how Kas could lose so much to banshees he knew were coming. WTF, starting engi bay after the banshee finishes, getting upgrades instead of protecting scvs, he make no sense
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 18 2011 03:03 GMT
#72
On December 18 2011 11:45 1Eris1 wrote:
Ganzi has flashes of brillances and flashes of play that remind me of Ensnare or somebody.
He's lucky Kas is starting to drop the ball


As much as I hate to admit it since it kind of throws a big question mark at the legitimacy of these games, they're both lagging and both suffering from playing at odd times (or at least Ganzi is if we go by his games against Sheth).
Gameplay > Personality
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 18 2011 03:04 GMT
#73
I thought ganzi was a strictly bio player.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45175 Posts
December 18 2011 03:12 GMT
#74
Congratulations to:

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Ganzi! 5-3
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 03:15:16
December 18 2011 03:14 GMT
#75
Hm, decent result but not the cleanest play by both.

Nevertheless, thanks for inviting Kas, IPL. That was nice to see, for once.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
December 18 2011 03:29 GMT
#76
hmmm, i think ganzi could survive tons of challengers. imho kas was already one of the strongest opponents the foreigners could throw at him. anyway, congratz to ganzi and also props to kas for showing a decent series.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 18 2011 03:29 GMT
#77
On December 18 2011 12:14 StarVe wrote:
Hm, decent result but not the cleanest play by both.

Nevertheless, thanks for inviting Kas, IPL. That was nice to see, for once.

I agree.

Kas is awesome
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 18 2011 03:31 GMT
#78
Throw a strong foreign Protoss in there if they want to take Ganzi out.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 18 2011 05:30 GMT
#79
Wow, Ganzi had me scared for a while there, but congrats to him and Kas!
Ganzi's play in the fight club has been subpar from what we would expect from him though...I guess a combination of Blizzcup prep with MMA, lag and exhaustion. Not excuses, but just possible factors.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 18 2011 05:40 GMT
#80
ganzi vs sase plz
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