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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 16 2011 23:03 Talin wrote: Ehm, Ganzi isn't that good in TvT and Kas has the ability to take him down if he performs at his usual level. I'd give 60-40 advantage to Ganzi, but no more. Ganzi is the guy who took out MVP in the Super tournament and went up 2-0 in the AoL 2 finals. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:13 SarcasmMonster wrote: Proxy marauders has like a 80% win rate in pro games. Unless you proxy marauder =) Supernova vs. Jjakji <3 | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Well played so far. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:14 Itsmedudeman wrote: Unless you proxy marauder =) Supernova vs. Jjakji <3 Never forget :D | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
I don't want to take anything away from Kas, but Ganzi is obviously much better than this showing of micro. The fact that latency to NA might be different makes KR vs. EU quite unfair. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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S2Lunar
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:52 Jombozeus wrote: Hmm. I am interested to know the difference in latency between EU -> NA and KR -> NA. I don't want to take anything away from Kas, but Ganzi is obviously much better than this showing of micro. The fact that latency to NA might be different makes KR vs. EU quite unfair. It doesn't make sense to talk about that. Nobody knows how the lag was from Ukraine or Korea at the day it was played (it's not always the same). If you think lag is the reason why a player is losing, then don't watch the matches. Kas showed that he can take down players like MarineKing in Korea on the Korean Server (2-0 in WCG). | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:52 Jombozeus wrote: Hmm. I am interested to know the difference in latency between EU -> NA and KR -> NA. I don't want to take anything away from Kas, but Ganzi is obviously much better than this showing of micro. The fact that latency to NA might be different makes KR vs. EU quite unfair. Well afaik in general EU-> NA is better but eastern Europe has pretty shit connection. I heard eastern Europe -> NA is just as bad as KR->NA. Good to see that Kas is able to play as good as usual online  | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12027 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:52 Jombozeus wrote: Hmm. I am interested to know the difference in latency between EU -> NA and KR -> NA. I don't want to take anything away from Kas, but Ganzi is obviously much better than this showing of micro. The fact that latency to NA might be different makes KR vs. EU quite unfair. Well, you can't just say EU->US latency compared to KR->US latency is unfair because Europe is so big. Kas is playing from Ukraine, the latency should be much worse than from like UK or Germany. I don't know how much the difference is, but I think Kas should have some lag, too. I don't want to argue with the statement that Ganzi has more lag, though, because I have no idea, really. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:09 StarVe wrote: Well, you can't just say EU->US latency compared to KR->US latency is unfair because Europe is so big. Kas is playing from Ukraine, the latency should be much worse than from like UK or Germany. I don't know how much the difference is, but I think Kas should have some lag, too. I don't want to argue with the statement that Ganzi has more lag, though, because I have no idea, really. No, I think it's just that kas is used to it while Ganzi isn't. Korean server has like literally no lag on battlenet for them, but Kas is an international player who is used to playing cross server so it wouldn't seem all too bad to him. Morrow said that after playing on the KR server in korea he notices lag a lot more when he plays outside korea and it's hard for him to get used to it. In terms of latency it's probably only like 30-50 net difference. | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:06 vdale wrote: It doesn't make sense to talk about that. Nobody knows how the lag was from Ukraine or Korea at the day it was played (it's not always the same). If you think lag is the reason why a player is losing, then don't watch the matches. Kas showed that he can take down players like MarineKing in Korea on the Korean Server (2-0 in WCG). 1. The difference in lag each day is inconsequential and negligible in the big picture. If one fluctuates between 250-300ms on a daily basis compared to 500-550ms... 2. I play from Asia right now, and I have about 800ms, knowing Korea has better internet might make this slightly better, but the vast majority of the Korean internet speed is dictated by its local fibers, not the cross-pacific ones that run through Japan. 3. I posted that before the F-bomb. 4. I know Ganzi on a semi-personal level, and trust me he won't drop the F-bomb unless hes extremely frustrated, I think this can be said for all Koreans. 5. "I don't want to take anything away from Kas." 6. It was a genuine question. | ||
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Jombozeus
China1014 Posts
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SarcasmMonster
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:12 Jombozeus wrote: 1. The difference in lag each day is inconsequential and negligible in the big picture. If one fluctuates between 250-300ms on a daily basis compared to 500-550ms... 2. I play from Asia right now, and I have about 800ms, knowing Korea has better internet might make this slightly better, but the vast majority of the Korean internet speed is dictated by its local fibers, not the cross-pacific ones that run through Japan. 3. I posted that before the F-bomb. 4. I know Ganzi on a semi-personal level, and trust me he won't drop the F-bomb unless hes extremely frustrated, I think this can be said for all Koreans. 5. "I don't want to take anything away from Kas." 6. It was a genuine question. I'm just saying that if a player agrees to play somewhere or on a server, he shouldn't complain and the viewers shouldn't talk about any excuses. It takes away the fun from the matches. It's the same with jet lag, too much traveling, etc. I just don't like it. | ||
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