When it comes to opinions about Terran, you'll have to excuse Artosis. He lives in his own little world where everything either is or should be just like BW.

Xaga

United States163 Posts

December 13 2011 02:52 GMT

#252

On December 13 2011 11:49 aviator116 wrote:

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everybody else: TL IS GONNA GO 5-2/5-1/5-0!!
yeah that didnt turn out real well ...

Read any thread of any game involving a TL player and that's how the majority of the posts will look...
Check the results of this tournament... That's generally how the results will look for Liquid in anything (Hero being the exeption).

I don't mind people cheering for their favorite team, but it's a bit ridiculous how many people think Liquid is the best team by far and will crush any opponent; it just doesn't happen.
Maybe someday it will, but it's not likely anytime soon.

ggs

Rinny

United States616 Posts

December 13 2011 02:53 GMT

#253

I hate to be that guy but are all the games played on NA? if so RGN would be at an advantage because all their players because of liquids roster, only sheth and tyler reside in NA and of them only sheth has had strong results lately. Calling TL weak based on these team leagues is unfair especially considering the teams strong individual performances.

xrapture

United States1644 Posts

December 13 2011 02:53 GMT

#254

On December 13 2011 11:51 forsooth wrote:

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When it comes to opinions about Terran, you'll have to excuse Artosis. He lives in his own little world where everything either is or should be just like BW.

Before the helion nerf it was the best. Even now a maxed mech army will destroy a maxed bio or bio/tank army. Jinro illustrated his sentiments about the change saying mech is the way tvt should be played (with which I agree), and that Blizzard is trying to turn tvt into a bio a move fest.

Mech tvt is still really strong and mvp does it regularly.

Also, please don't judge mech from this game. Jinro is a great guy and all, but he's Artist is in another class when it comes to SC2.

GeorgeForeman

United States1746 Posts

December 13 2011 02:54 GMT

#255

Help me out here. Where was Jinro's army? That was 40 supply locked up in marines/medvacs, and Jinro was up by like 8-10 going into the fight. AND THEN Jinro lost the air battle and badly. So clearly he had fewer Vikings.... I don't get it. Did he massively over-produce workers? Did he just have 20 extra tanks that ALL died when marines fell on them? Where was that extra supply?

Mordiford

4448 Posts

December 13 2011 02:55 GMT

#256

On December 13 2011 11:53 Rinny wrote:
I hate to be that guy but are all the games played on NA? if so RGN would be at an advantage because all their players because of liquids roster, only sheth and tyler reside in NA and of them only sheth has had strong results lately. Calling TL weak based on these team leagues is unfair especially considering the teams strong individual performances.

Inori, who took 3 kills does not reside in NA either.

So even if the game were played on NA, it's not a valid excuse.

Sabersharp

43 Posts

December 13 2011 02:55 GMT

#257

Teams strong individual performances? I dun think so.Only HerO and Ret are giving strong individual performance.The rest not so much.

Dexington

Canada7276 Posts

December 13 2011 02:59 GMT

#258

On December 13 2011 11:55 Mordiford wrote:

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Inori, who took 3 kills does not reside in NA either.

So even if the game were played on NA, it's not a valid excuse.

This. He's going to live in the RGN house, but for now I'm pretty sure he lives in Korea.

aviator116

United States820 Posts

December 13 2011 02:59 GMT

#259

On December 13 2011 11:55 Sabersharp wrote:

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Teams strong individual performances? I dun think so.Only HerO and Ret are giving strong individual performance.The rest not so much.

not ret either besides some decent MLG performances...seriously Hero is the ONLY liquid hope.

On December 13 2011 11:54 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Help me out here. Where was Jinro's army? That was 40 supply locked up in marines/medvacs, and Jinro was up by like 8-10 going into the fight. AND THEN Jinro lost the air battle and badly. So clearly he had fewer Vikings.... I don't get it. Did he massively over-produce workers? Did he just have 20 extra tanks that ALL died when marines fell on them? Where was that extra supply?

Jinro did lose a shitload of tanks during that siegefest, but i think he was also producing too much bio/scvs. Artist just had the superior tank count, and that in macro TvTs is the important factor.