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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:11:32
December 11 2011 16:09 GMT
#661
Khaldor criticizing you doesnt mean I dislike you, I already said I think youre a decent commentator, that doesnt mean your analysis is flawless.
Sitting on 3 base and not doing anything, letting Zerg tech and get 5 Bases is bad, yes.
Taking a quick 3rd, getting tech and upgrade advantage while scaring zerg into making too many roaches. Getting up 3 bases vs 3 Zerg bases with a 4th just starting is not bad.
Of course True could have reacted better, people can always play better but as it stands inka was outplaying him all the way, and he was already outplaying him while you were still faulting inka for playing too passive, for example you couldve realized that Zerg doesnt have a big eco advantage with only having 4 more workers on the same amount of bases.

saying zerg made too many mistakes AFTER he got destroyed is easy.
beep boop
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
December 11 2011 16:10 GMT
#662
Just got back in in time to see Happy crush incas army
Anyone know where vods will go up/ if khaldor puts vods on his owned.tv site?
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
brrip
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
December 11 2011 16:11 GMT
#663
On December 12 2011 01:09 7mk wrote:
Khaldor criticizing you doesnt mean I dislike you, I already said I think youre a decent commentator, that doesnt mean your analysis is flawless.
Sitting on 3 base and not doing anything, letting Zerg tech and get 5 Bases is bad, yes.
Taking a quick 3rd, getting tech and upgrade advantage while scaring zerg into making too many roaches. Getting up 3 bases vs 3 Zerg bases with a 4th just starting is not bad.
Of course True could have reacted better, people can always play better but as it stands inka was outplaying him all the way, and he was already outplaying him while you were still faulting inka for playing too passive, for example you couldve realized that Zerg doesnt have a big eco advantage with only having 4 more workers on the same amount of bases.


can you translate his rant please?

don't take it too hard, khaldor has temper issues IMO. he even gets mad at his teammates WHILE STREAMING.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 16:15:14
December 11 2011 16:13 GMT
#664
On December 12 2011 01:11 brrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:09 7mk wrote:
Khaldor criticizing you doesnt mean I dislike you, I already said I think youre a decent commentator, that doesnt mean your analysis is flawless.
Sitting on 3 base and not doing anything, letting Zerg tech and get 5 Bases is bad, yes.
Taking a quick 3rd, getting tech and upgrade advantage while scaring zerg into making too many roaches. Getting up 3 bases vs 3 Zerg bases with a 4th just starting is not bad.
Of course True could have reacted better, people can always play better but as it stands inka was outplaying him all the way, and he was already outplaying him while you were still faulting inka for playing too passive, for example you couldve realized that Zerg doesnt have a big eco advantage with only having 4 more workers on the same amount of bases.


can you translate his rant please?

don't take it too hard, khaldor has temper issues IMO. he even gets mad at his teammates WHILE STREAMING.


im not taking it hard, im just having a discussion
he basically said he disagrees with my opinion, that zerg shouldve have had more drones, that protoss sitting on 3 bases is bad and that true losing doesnt mean inka played well, that he just played even worse.
beep boop
masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
December 11 2011 16:19 GMT
#665
i guess its true what they say. its easier and less of a headache for commentators to talk up a player instead of criticizing them.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
December 11 2011 16:20 GMT
#666
On December 12 2011 01:13 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:11 brrip wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:09 7mk wrote:
Khaldor criticizing you doesnt mean I dislike you, I already said I think youre a decent commentator, that doesnt mean your analysis is flawless.
Sitting on 3 base and not doing anything, letting Zerg tech and get 5 Bases is bad, yes.
Taking a quick 3rd, getting tech and upgrade advantage while scaring zerg into making too many roaches. Getting up 3 bases vs 3 Zerg bases with a 4th just starting is not bad.
Of course True could have reacted better, people can always play better but as it stands inka was outplaying him all the way, and he was already outplaying him while you were still faulting inka for playing too passive, for example you couldve realized that Zerg doesnt have a big eco advantage with only having 4 more workers on the same amount of bases.


can you translate his rant please?

don't take it too hard, khaldor has temper issues IMO. he even gets mad at his teammates WHILE STREAMING.


im not taking it hard, im just having a discussion
he basically said he disagrees with my opinion, that zerg shouldve have had more drones, that protoss sitting on 3 bases is bad and that true losing doesnt mean inka played well, that he just played even worse.


I agree.
Khaldor doesn't really looka t constructive criticism and improve from the feedback, he reacts with anger and frustration, which is why he will probably never be a top tier caster.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 11 2011 16:33 GMT
#667
Does anone have the lineups for next week?

The games today were pretty good, but personally I enjoyed yesterdays match more. Great play by Yonghwa, hope he can make it to the Code A next season...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
December 11 2011 16:35 GMT
#668
On December 12 2011 01:03 Olinimm wrote:
oGs could've won if they use Inca right away on yonghwa and used MC, don't get the logic of using inca last. Good clanwar though.


Yeah, good games. However, Blizzard Cup is more important than some $100 clan war so naturally MVP, NesTea and MC weren't gong to play.
brrip
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
December 11 2011 16:41 GMT
#669
On December 12 2011 01:35 Amornthep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:03 Olinimm wrote:
oGs could've won if they use Inca right away on yonghwa and used MC, don't get the logic of using inca last. Good clanwar though.


Yeah, good games. However, Blizzard Cup is more important than some $100 clan war so naturally MVP, NesTea and MC weren't gong to play.


yeah. that plus MVP must be pretty tired after winning 20k USD today.
Hakkesshu
Profile Joined April 2011
United States78 Posts
December 11 2011 16:41 GMT
#670
Yup. If Khaldor wants to improve his casting he has to control his temper a little better. And speaking in German just makes it worst IMO and not necessary.

I know he's trying to be blunt, which I like, but he doesn't have to stick to his opinion after the game is over. You can always re-evaluate the game after it's over and admit fault if any.

Overall I agreed with both sides, Inca should at least try to prevent 5th expansion while building a deathball. True didn't do a good job at sniping or handling the deathball. If he's leading in bases he should stayed back and tech up; not sure if he has time to go broods.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
December 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#671
What happened with all that criticism rant stuff? I missed the show
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#672
Yeah Khaldor is very stubborn, doesn't like his opinion being challenged.
Still enjoy his commentary though, especially for events like this where he is usually more relaxed

dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
December 11 2011 16:52 GMT
#673
Guys, ffs, Khaldor is casting a side league nearly ever day from like 10 at night til 1 in the morning, casting by himself usually, can we just relax, enjoy the fucking games, and be glad that he's casting in English for us? On top of which he's a great solo caster imo, he's really entertaining to listen to even by himself. If you disagree with his analysis of a game, fine, explain what you think, but I don't see why people are still talking about this -.- Just let it go.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 11 2011 16:54 GMT
#674
On December 12 2011 01:41 brrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 01:35 Amornthep wrote:
On December 12 2011 01:03 Olinimm wrote:
oGs could've won if they use Inca right away on yonghwa and used MC, don't get the logic of using inca last. Good clanwar though.


Yeah, good games. However, Blizzard Cup is more important than some $100 clan war so naturally MVP, NesTea and MC weren't gong to play.


yeah. that plus MVP must be pretty tired after winning 20k USD today.


I loled at this. MVP only played 2 games today to win his 20k USD.
I think he would have been more tired from the partying haha.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 11 2011 16:55 GMT
#675
On December 12 2011 01:52 dormer wrote:
Guys, ffs, Khaldor is casting a side league nearly ever day from like 10 at night til 1 in the morning, casting by himself usually, can we just relax, enjoy the fucking games, and be glad that he's casting in English for us? On top of which he's a great solo caster imo, he's really entertaining to listen to even by himself. If you disagree with his analysis of a game, fine, explain what you think, but I don't see why people are still talking about this -.- Just let it go.


Agreed. But i'm sure despite all our differences in opinions, we all love khaldors casting and all the effort he has put in to cast this side league everyday. Khaldor, i'm a huge fan of your work and will always support your stream!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#676
On December 12 2011 01:52 dormer wrote:
Guys, ffs, Khaldor is casting a side league nearly ever day from like 10 at night til 1 in the morning, casting by himself usually, can we just relax, enjoy the fucking games, and be glad that he's casting in English for us? On top of which he's a great solo caster imo, he's really entertaining to listen to even by himself. If you disagree with his analysis of a game, fine, explain what you think, but I don't see why people are still talking about this -.- Just let it go.


I agree, the man contributes a ton and theres no bashing warranted, I only expressed my discontent with his analysis this game and replied to the things he replied to.
beep boop
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
December 11 2011 17:09 GMT
#677
On December 12 2011 01:52 dormer wrote:
Guys, ffs, Khaldor is casting a side league nearly ever day from like 10 at night til 1 in the morning, casting by himself usually, can we just relax, enjoy the fucking games, and be glad that he's casting in English for us? On top of which he's a great solo caster imo, he's really entertaining to listen to even by himself. If you disagree with his analysis of a game, fine, explain what you think, but I don't see why people are still talking about this -.- Just let it go.


Thank you.. Why is every thread full of caster bashing. I appreciate the post was constructive, and I have to say I agree, but you can't read a game 100% perfect 100% of the time.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
December 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#678
On December 12 2011 00:45 haffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 00:44 Rodimus Prime wrote:
Is anyone else getting this ad? SO FUCKING HOT.

[image loading]


Nope lol, I get skiing ads because I've been looking to go skiing. Guess you've been looking at Asians.


Lol that is so funny, next time Im gonna prepare so I also get these ads :D
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 11 2011 18:44 GMT
#679
You're all missing the most important thing.

INCA WON A PVZ!!!!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 18:47:28
December 11 2011 18:46 GMT
#680
On December 12 2011 03:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
You're all missing the most important thing.

INCA WON A PVZ!!!!

with his favorite unit dark templars?
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
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