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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
![]() wait actually there's still hope in the up and down matches! two more foreigners! | ||
Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:35 Seeker wrote: Guys.... Me and Drazerk, and other people who can report WILL NOT HESITATE TO REPORT!!! I'm not having this. MLG and DH fall in to a complete shit storm DO NOT BALANCE WHINE IN HERE!! Yeah please don't balance whine, caster QQ etc etc | ||
Mios
United States686 Posts
when hellions come forcefield the ramp and buy time for 2 warpins of stalkers, immediately robo after the hellions die or leave to have detection/immortals in time for a 1-1-1. | ||
ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote: What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do. Build order loss, plain and simple. That's not build order loss. 2 rax against nexus first is a build order loss. That's a responsive strategy. Just like in BW, if you see nexus first, pull 3 or 4 scvs and go kill the nexus, it is very standard. | ||
Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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-YoricK-
United States476 Posts
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Ezkaton
Japan416 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:36 Ryncol wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote: On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote: What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do. Build order loss, plain and simple. It was fine on Antiga, but doing the exact same thing on Dual Sight was kinda dumb, I think. Yeah i really can't think of a much worse map to nexus first on other than dual sight. Disappointed by that series. Hopefully the Boxer vs Marineking match makes up for it in awesomeness ^^ | ||
supdubdup
United States916 Posts
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Lord_J
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Kenya1085 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:36 Bayyne wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:36 Teoita wrote: On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote: On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote: What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do. Build order loss, plain and simple. It wasn't a build order loss. It was Keen scouting that Huk was being insanely greedy and punishing it, pure and simple. Still a build order loss. Your opponent seeing your build, reacting to it, and then killing you is not a build order loss. | ||
Gigel
Romania92 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:35 K3Nyy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:33 MayorITC wrote: On December 07 2011 18:33 mcmartini wrote: So dissapointed with both Keen and Huk. Keen for allin'ing twice and Huk for not being more safe :/ How is that an all-in... Lol, everyone's been calling every build that doesn't involve an expansion by 5 mins an allin these days. Don't forget 1-1-1 | ||
dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:36 Bayyne wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:36 Teoita wrote: On December 07 2011 18:34 Bayyne wrote: On December 07 2011 18:34 Ezkaton wrote: What in the actual fuck just happened in those 2 games? I'm a huk fan but i gotta say well played by keen just punishing a greedy opening and doing what he had to do. Build order loss, plain and simple. It wasn't a build order loss. It was Keen scouting that Huk was being insanely greedy and punishing it, pure and simple. Still a build order loss. No its not, it was a huk being greedy loss | ||
Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:35 Medrea wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:33 ElephantBaby wrote: On December 07 2011 18:32 Medrea wrote: On December 07 2011 18:31 supdubdup wrote: Hey...what just happened...lol. 2 single base allins from terran. One of them protoss went nexus first on a 2 player map for some reason. That's not allin at all. No expo, so I guess I should just say 1 base timing attacks. better? That works better but even then. Reactored hellion pressure into Marine/Tank push would be better. You know... WHAT EVERY TERRAN DOES TO ZERG EVERY GAME! It doesn't get anymore standard than that. | ||
Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:33 Breach_hu wrote: this nexus first with double gas is pretty terrible againts almost everything different than 1rax gasless FE. And he even scouted the 13 gas from Keen in both games, weird to continue with that build | ||
Ranir
413 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:34 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:33 Krossfire wrote: wow so hellions are pretty good eh funny how more terrans are treating TvP like TvZ and very harass based...toss players need to switch up or not be super greedy, those were greedy builds and he hard countered cloak banshee both times which never came. It was a totally reactionary response. I hope that you're kiding about the cloak banshee... People have to think whenever they talk about meta game like that. How many times do you think HuK did a nexus first vs Terran just to prepare vs this match? You really think that a build that he practiced sooo much would get hard counter by cloak banshee? Why the hell would he go Nexus first if he knew something so easy as cloak banshee would hard counter it? it obviously doesn't.. you can have a robo and an obs in time. Just think whenever you say stuff about a meta game, these guys play hundred and hundred of games with the same strat. | ||
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:34 Pajegetc wrote: Scumbag Foreigners Wants to see more Foreigners in GSL Bashes the only Foreign player in GSL Standard TL forums. To be honest, Huk deserves to be called... (I'll skip that word because of moderation) because he played the same ridiculously greedy bo 2 games in a row and that was an important match to get his Code S back. | ||
HitMonkie
Australia518 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:35 sunman1g wrote: im sorry but who the hell is satouri ? Stephano = Satouri | ||
Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:32 Deshkar wrote: I think HuK was being way too greedy with a Nexus First, into Tech, especially after losing a early high aggression 1 base play the first game. He's basically gambling that it won't happen again, which did, after Keen scouted. Why Huk went Nexus first against a terran on a 2 player map is beyond me. If he just did a standard 3 gate 1 robo expand (or even a 1 gate 1 robo) he could have held against any hellion push. | ||
dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:36 blooblooblahblah wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2011 18:35 Vindicare605 wrote: On December 07 2011 18:33 mcmartini wrote: So dissapointed with both Keen and Huk. Keen for allin'ing twice and Huk for not being more safe :/ Yet another Protoss who has apparently never watched a single game of TvZ. There's nothing all in at all about this opening against a Nexus/Hatchery first. It's standard to open with hellion/marine against Zerg what makes opening against Protoss any different? Neither of those builds were all in. Easily able to be transitioned out of. Are you trolling? Are you? | ||
brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On December 07 2011 18:34 Pajegetc wrote: Scumbag Foreigners Wants to see more Foreigners in GSL Bashes the only Foreign player in GSL Standard TL forums. I'm not gonna say he deserve to be bashed but he deserves to be critizied for his poor play | ||
softan
Sweden113 Posts
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