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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
December 03 2011 12:46 GMT
#9641
I missed GSL finals and NASL day1, fuck my life
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 13:09:33
December 03 2011 12:47 GMT
#9642
On December 03 2011 21:01 Full.tilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 20:16 Letall wrote:
How where the Mana Vs Morrow games? Did morrow go infestor Blingdrops? Hate that I missed it : /


Game 1
+ Show Spoiler +

Very passive start,

Mana went 1 gate expand into 4gate, stargate and forge.

Morrow had got to 3 base into lair by then.

mana built a VR and went overlord hunting, 3 phoenix joined in, killed quite a few overlords, 7 or 8, Morrow slowly dealt with it with queens and a couple of spore crawlers and macroed through it with a 4th base + 90 drones @ 10 min mark.

mana still didn't attack even though he must've seen no army for Morrow, built up his own deathball, stalker, sentry, zealot, couple of colossus @14min.

Morrow kept up macro econ + tech, hive - now has an amy of ling, infestor and 9 corrupters @ 14min starts greater spire. Plus adds some roaches to the army mix.

Critical moment @16min, Mana warp prism with 4 zealots +1 att drop onto morphing greater spire (can't warp in anything else because he's supply blocked), Morrows army out of position in middle of map, Greater spire is defended by drones and a couple of queens, 3 transfusions barely keep it alive in the red before the zealots are cleaned up.

@20mins big engagement, Morrow rolls over Mana's deathball with nice fungals, lings, roaches and 10 broodlords. ling reinforcements and remains of morrows higher tier units clean up most of mana's warp in reinforcements as well. Has about a 50 supply lead - game goes on until about 28 mins until mana gg's


game 2

+ Show Spoiler +
mana forge expand plus 1 cannon, Morrow 13 pool 20 hatch,

Mana wallin with 2 cannons, morrow goes to 3 base, mana goes to 5 gate plus colossus tech @9min

Morrow techs to banes plus drops

@13min Morrow splits army into 2, - 5 overlords full of lings goes to drop main while roaches go to mana's wallin. Ling drop gets repelled, roaches take out forge, Morrow pulls both armies back. Mana pushes out with his stalker plus colossus to try to get some map control but ends up pulling back.

Morrow finally morphs some banelings, adds infestors to his roach army, fills 10 overlords with banelings

Mana has about 30 stalkers plus 5 colossus, it starts to banerain and all 5 bunched up colossus evaporate plus half his stalkers, roaches clean up the rest. Morrow pulls back 174 to 116 supply in Morrow's favour, Morrow on 4 base, mana just starting his 4th.

Morrow makes about 8 corrupters to handle the new couple of colossus, Morrow pushes in and wipes out Mana's army again (roach, infestor, ling + corrupters) - a few more battles occur, Morrow always has at least a 60 supply lead but it's basically over, mana gg's after a few mins when he's had enough of being strangled and abused.


getting bored now, mana isn't aggressive enough, and morrow takes full advantage and gets to do whatever he wants.

game 3

+ Show Spoiler +
Both same openings, forge expand and 13 pool 20 hatch.

This time the first 4 lings get past the just finishing cannon at the expansion into main base because it's a smaller map. 3 get in kill one probe, remaining 2 remain very annoying for a few mins and pick off 3 more probes, delays mana's tech as he doesn't want to show what he's doing whilst lings remain alive.

mana does get aggressive earlier this game @10 min attacks morrows 3rd with stalker, sentry army. Morrow lets it die and counters with roaches and lings to deny mana's 3rd whch is warping in. he leaves lings to deny 3rd and walks into mana's expansion with a load of roaches as mana's army tries to return home. Mana's army finally makes it back to see expansion die and a mass of roaches destroying his main nexus.

So to summarise, mana got aggressive took out Morrow's 3rd. Morrow countered and denied 3rd and killed mana's main and expansion's nexus'. Mana throws his army at Morrows main, Morrow holds, gg. So yeah i guess i can understand why he was so passive in the first two games


game 4

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nope


game 5

+ Show Spoiler +
still nope


AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 12:49:56
December 03 2011 12:47 GMT
#9643
On December 03 2011 21:44 Veritoss wrote: edit: and just now read some comments above.. there's no lq recording on twitch.. if you click on the recording it says: pay to watch^^


Ouch. That sucks.

Edit: I mean; we got to watch it for free, why can't others that couldn't make the time do so? Makes no sense.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
December 03 2011 12:50 GMT
#9644
On December 03 2011 21:17 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 21:01 Full.tilt wrote:
On December 03 2011 20:16 Letall wrote:
How where the Mana Vs Morrow games? Did morrow go infestor Blingdrops? Hate that I missed it : /


Game 1

Very passive start,

Mana went 1 gate expand into 4gate, stargate and forge.

Morrow had got to 3 base into lair by then.

mana built a VR and went overlord hunting, 3 phoenix joined in, killed quite a few overlords, 7 or 8, Morrow slowly dealt with it with queens and a couple of spore crawlers and macroed through it with a 4th base + 90 drones @ 10 min mark.

mana still didn't attack even though he must've seen no army for Morrow, built up his own deathball, stalker, sentry, zealot, couple of colossus @14min.

Morrow kept up macro econ + tech, hive - now has an amy of ling, infestor and 9 corrupters @ 14min starts greater spire. Plus adds some roaches to the army mix.

Critical moment @16min, Mana warp prism with 4 zealots +1 att drop onto morphing greater spire (can't warp in anything else because he's supply blocked), Morrows army out of position in middle of map, Greater spire is defended by drones and a couple of queens, 3 transfusions barely keep it alive in the red before the zealots are cleaned up.

@20mins big engagement, Morrow rolls over Mana's deathball with nice fungals, lings, roaches and 10 broodlords. ling reinforcements and remains of morrows higher tier units clean up most of mana's warp in reinforcements as well. Has about a 50 supply lead - game goes on until about 28 mins until mana gg's

watching the other two now.


I think Mana played beautifully in every game. But Morrow is getting so good!

I will want to see him do well in this league!

Morrow Vs Idra in Semi-finals, and I don't think Morrow can beat Idra ZvT. ZvZ? Maybe, because it is volatile and all, but ZvT? Idra's ZvT looks to be as clean as it gets, but we will see.


He won TvZ against idra during the regular season so he may do it again
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
December 03 2011 12:52 GMT
#9645
Is there any place to see vods from yesterday?
crack
Todie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden46 Posts
December 03 2011 13:02 GMT
#9646
On December 03 2011 21:52 Coolhwip wrote:
Is there any place to see vods from yesterday?


no free vods and no restream. i give it 3-4 hours 'til tables start getting flipped about this issue.
Petter Rudberg @Todie #3264 on Discord /u/Todie on reddit
jeppie1
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands20 Posts
December 03 2011 13:04 GMT
#9647
I wanted to watch some VOD's this morning just to find out you have to have a membership.....
so dum...
Wassup?
krirby
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 13:06:00
December 03 2011 13:05 GMT
#9648
On December 03 2011 22:04 jeppie1 wrote:
I wanted to watch some VOD's this morning just to find out you have to have a membership.....
so dum...


ya.. im not going to pay for an event if they dont even care about their viewers.

i pay for mlg no problems because they know how to take care of their streams and events but NASL can go suck the big one for all i care
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 13:18:11
December 03 2011 13:17 GMT
#9649
On December 03 2011 19:34 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 19:21 IndridCold wrote:
Really hope there's more of a turnout for tomorrow. Despite the NASL problems, and maybe the "unorthodox" season from a video game standpoint, i don't see why people are blackballing these guys and their product. They have a great lineup of players, show mass amounts of games for the fans, and are putting on a very ambitious live event finals. Lets support them....




Just want to support this post. NASL grand finals have been very enjoyable for me. Have seen some great series, and the fact they were all bo5 makes all of them much more satisfying. I think the games were presented to us more than adequately, and I can't for the life of me understand why people were going nuts over such minor issues. Thanks NASL for bringing good starcraft to me.


This is like saying: Why are people buying Nike clothes, and not clothes from an unknown company which are worse at producing clothes, charges higher prices and doesn't have any intelligent marketing.

Of course NASL is gonna fail. Its just a really really bad product compared to its competitors. Lucikly for NASL the competion on live tournaments isn't that high, as there is less than 1 per week. If the competion was harder noone would watch NASL. At least 30k people are watching it offline.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 13:22:17
December 03 2011 13:21 GMT
#9650
To all you guys that complain about that you need membership to watch vods I can say you dont miss anything. I have membership and sure there are vods, just one minor issue, NASL takes on average 7-14 days to upload vods.

If you want to see the vods with out having the results spoiled you going to have to live in a jar for 2 weeks.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 03 2011 13:28 GMT
#9651
On December 03 2011 22:21 4ZakeN87 wrote:
To all you guys that complain about that you need membership to watch vods I can say you dont miss anything. I have membership and sure there are vods, just one minor issue, NASL takes on average 7-14 days to upload vods.

If you want to see the vods with out having the results spoiled you going to have to live in a jar for 2 weeks.


http://www.twitch.tv/naslseasontwo/b/301515369 - There you go.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
December 03 2011 13:30 GMT
#9652
Had to go to bed just as thorzain was gonna play but I have to ask here what intro Idra and sheth had? Also did the crowd pick up at the later matches or was it still less than 40 guys?
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 03 2011 13:34 GMT
#9653
On December 03 2011 22:30 trucane wrote:
Had to go to bed just as thorzain was gonna play but I have to ask here what intro Idra and sheth had? Also did the crowd pick up at the later matches or was it still less than 40 guys?

Someone recorded IdrA's entrance and put it on youtube, EG tweeted it out earlier.

#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 03 2011 13:35 GMT
#9654
On December 03 2011 21:50 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 21:17 Jotoco wrote:
On December 03 2011 21:01 Full.tilt wrote:
On December 03 2011 20:16 Letall wrote:
How where the Mana Vs Morrow games? Did morrow go infestor Blingdrops? Hate that I missed it : /


Game 1

Very passive start,

Mana went 1 gate expand into 4gate, stargate and forge.

Morrow had got to 3 base into lair by then.

mana built a VR and went overlord hunting, 3 phoenix joined in, killed quite a few overlords, 7 or 8, Morrow slowly dealt with it with queens and a couple of spore crawlers and macroed through it with a 4th base + 90 drones @ 10 min mark.

mana still didn't attack even though he must've seen no army for Morrow, built up his own deathball, stalker, sentry, zealot, couple of colossus @14min.

Morrow kept up macro econ + tech, hive - now has an amy of ling, infestor and 9 corrupters @ 14min starts greater spire. Plus adds some roaches to the army mix.

Critical moment @16min, Mana warp prism with 4 zealots +1 att drop onto morphing greater spire (can't warp in anything else because he's supply blocked), Morrows army out of position in middle of map, Greater spire is defended by drones and a couple of queens, 3 transfusions barely keep it alive in the red before the zealots are cleaned up.

@20mins big engagement, Morrow rolls over Mana's deathball with nice fungals, lings, roaches and 10 broodlords. ling reinforcements and remains of morrows higher tier units clean up most of mana's warp in reinforcements as well. Has about a 50 supply lead - game goes on until about 28 mins until mana gg's

watching the other two now.


I think Mana played beautifully in every game. But Morrow is getting so good!

I will want to see him do well in this league!

Morrow Vs Idra in Semi-finals, and I don't think Morrow can beat Idra ZvT. ZvZ? Maybe, because it is volatile and all, but ZvT? Idra's ZvT looks to be as clean as it gets, but we will see.


He won TvZ against idra during the regular season so he may do it again

Morrow seems pretty confident in his tvz. He knows the ins and outs of that matchup from both directions. Also I'm not as certain idra will get past puma.
darcevader88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada648 Posts
December 03 2011 13:39 GMT
#9655
+ Show Spoiler +
did thorzain 3-0 demuslim?

just wondering?
"The ground is my ocean, I'm the shark and most people don't even know how to swim."
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 03 2011 13:41 GMT
#9656
On December 03 2011 22:39 darcevader88 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
did thorzain 3-0 demuslim?

just wondering?

yep
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
December 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#9657
Weird game management from NASL... I feel like they put the two marquis match ups at the very end.... where nobody was awake to watch. I mean seriously... who gives a fuck about two PvP's.... EVERYONE cares about iDra vs Strelok and Puma vs Sheth....

Seriously NASL, if you can control the Brackets, why would you make us watch two PvP's before getting into the good stuff?
A time to live.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
December 03 2011 13:47 GMT
#9658
hmmm this is going towards HerO vs Puma rematch... or HerO vs T-Zain
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
jeppie1
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands20 Posts
December 03 2011 13:49 GMT
#9659
I rather have them do more ads in between games then this shitty system where you have to pay for vods and shit
Wassup?
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 13:57:50
December 03 2011 13:56 GMT
#9660
How can MorroW be so + Show Spoiler +
goooosuu
? x__x ..+ Show Spoiler +
.Coming back from nowhere and taking 3 - 0 victory, love it!
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