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[KSL] Prime vs StarTale: Friday, December 2nd - Page 9

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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 02 2011 15:39 GMT
#161
That was more like the Squirtle of the GSL lol -__-

can't believe he attacked into that
SkysLa
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada84 Posts
December 02 2011 15:39 GMT
#162
Ugh, Squirtle, why attack there?! I mean right now that doesn't even seem like something you think when you're dumb. He had faster third as well(Squirtle).
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
December 02 2011 15:39 GMT
#163
A-moving into a choke with 7 collosi that are completely unreachable. Pro level decision making
hell is other people
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 15:41:09
December 02 2011 15:39 GMT
#164
Classic is going to have the most absurdly sick ball of death soon.

...Or he's just going to kill Squirtle now.

+ Show Spoiler [ Today's overall results] +

(Z)Bumblebee <Dual Sight> (T)Hack
(Z)Bumblebee <Tal'Darim Altar> (Z)KingKong
(P)cOre <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)KingKong
(P)cOre <Daybreak> (T)Bomber
(P)Creator <Calm Before the Storm> (T)Bomber
(P)Creator <Crossfire SE> (Z)July
(P)Creator <Bel'Shir Beach Winter> (Z)Curious
(P)Creator <Daybreak> (P)Squirtle
(Z)Annyeong <Antiga Shipyard> (P)Squirtle
(P)Classic <Calm Before the Storm> (P)Squirtle

Prime wins 6-4

DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#165
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#166
Anyway nice clan war, gg's Prime!
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#167
I kept hearing Squirrel :/ GJ classic.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 02 2011 15:40 GMT
#168
Terrrrrrrrrrrrible engagement there from Squirtle. What on EARTH was he thinking
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 15:43:18
December 02 2011 15:41 GMT
#169
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style. A lot of "early game" players do really well on ladder like alive, but you can tell a lot of them aren't super strong with late game management.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 15:42:43
December 02 2011 15:42 GMT
#170
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

Of course he is almost unbeatable on ladder, with ladder maps his execution can win him as many games as he wants.
It has to do with the maps more than anything else imo
WriterMaru
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
December 02 2011 15:43 GMT
#171
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 02 2011 15:46 GMT
#172
Nice games, ty for casting khaldor/tod
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
December 02 2011 15:46 GMT
#173
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

Not really, he did well in WCG too, he almost always lose to Mvp, or bo1 groupstages, but yes he plays safer offline than online, may affect his results quite a bit.
WriterMaru
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
December 02 2011 15:46 GMT
#174
If you are Protoss or Zerg, you SHOULD be frightened of Marineking, whoever you are. It needs a really good TvT Player to beat Marineking in a Bo Series. That he fails to MVP, well it might be mentality at some point, but nevertheless MVP is best TvT player in the world by far, so no shame that he keeps losing to him (in his weakest MU), as nearly everyone does. People saying that are seeing themselves as favorite against Marineking are either TvT experts or just dumb.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 15:50:54
December 02 2011 15:48 GMT
#175
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

So? He still loses online tournies, it's not like he's unbeatable like you say at all. Also, I've watched those games, and it's not like he executes better than I see him at live tournaments. His opponents are just much more prepared. He's made it to enough LAN finals to the point where you can't discern performance quality, but his opponents in the live finals are typically 10x better like MVP.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
December 02 2011 15:52 GMT
#176
On December 03 2011 00:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

So? He still loses online tournies, it's not like he's unbeatable like you say at all. Also, I've watched those games, and it's not like he executes better than I see him at live tournaments. His opponents are just much more prepared. He's made it to enough LAN finals to the point where you can't discern performance quality, but his opponents in the live finals are typically 10x better like MVP.

Where did I say he is unbeatable?
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 15:57:47
December 02 2011 15:55 GMT
#177
On December 03 2011 00:52 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

So? He still loses online tournies, it's not like he's unbeatable like you say at all. Also, I've watched those games, and it's not like he executes better than I see him at live tournaments. His opponents are just much more prepared. He's made it to enough LAN finals to the point where you can't discern performance quality, but his opponents in the live finals are typically 10x better like MVP.

Where did I say he is unbeatable?

"He is almost unbeatable on ladder"

Idk why I'm bothering to talk about this when he didn't even play today, but he has really volatile results because of his builds. It's really not a mystery, but he's had success in high pressure situations like up and down, and gotten deep enough in live tournaments to the point where I'll say he doesn't have nerve issues.

Same with Bomber. He's said so himself that he doesn't have any issues with nerves, and I've never heard of MKP saying anything about it either so people should stop speculating random things like that. The only thing I've heard MKP say is how good of a player MVP is.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
December 02 2011 15:59 GMT
#178
Results for the team match in OP is messed up.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 02 2011 15:59 GMT
#179
I don't think MKP has nerve issues. You don't make so many deep run into GSL finals if you have serious nerve issues. But i certainly don't think he has a strong mental aspect to him, in that sense that a loss in a series can rattle him really hard or that he can screw up leads.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#180
On December 03 2011 00:59 Garnet wrote:
Results for the team match in OP is messed up.

Yeah, was on the way into the office, I'm updating it now.

Thanks :D
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
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