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[KSL] Prime vs StarTale: Friday, December 2nd - Page 10

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haruk
Profile Joined November 2010
216 Posts
December 02 2011 16:13 GMT
#181
When mkp's good, he's really really good. When he's bad, he's really really bad. That's why he can make us fans either high or want to bash our heads on a wall. That said, i don't think his problem is nerve issues or weak mentality. His problem is Mvp.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
December 02 2011 16:20 GMT
#182
On December 03 2011 01:13 haruk wrote:
When mkp's good, he's really really good. When he's bad, he's really really bad. That's why he can make us fans either high or want to bash our heads on a wall. That said, i don't think his problem is nerve issues or weak mentality. His problem is Mvp.

No his mental strength was not the best, not just Mvp.
He himself said (to Polt at least) that he got overconfident in his semi-final against MMA, and threw away a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2. He improved quite a lot on it tho (see his extended serie against sC in providence for example), I think that if he improves his tvt to the level of Mvp's one, he will have the mental strenght necessary to beat him.

Anyways it was a great clanwar, but I'm a bit disappointed by the number of protoss/zerg used by both teams, I wanted to see some terran action t;t. Khaldor and ToD did a great job, ToD's commentary is as amazing as always (remember HSC 2? :D).
CreatorPrime displaying his skills again, this young protoss gonna go far in the future (he already helped Prime A LOT in GSTL playoff)
WriterMaru
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#183
On December 03 2011 00:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:52 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

So? He still loses online tournies, it's not like he's unbeatable like you say at all. Also, I've watched those games, and it's not like he executes better than I see him at live tournaments. His opponents are just much more prepared. He's made it to enough LAN finals to the point where you can't discern performance quality, but his opponents in the live finals are typically 10x better like MVP.

Where did I say he is unbeatable?

"He is almost unbeatable on ladder"

Idk why I'm bothering to talk about this when he didn't even play today, but he has really volatile results because of his builds. It's really not a mystery, but he's had success in high pressure situations like up and down, and gotten deep enough in live tournaments to the point where I'll say he doesn't have nerve issues.

Same with Bomber. He's said so himself that he doesn't have any issues with nerves, and I've never heard of MKP saying anything about it either so people should stop speculating random things like that. The only thing I've heard MKP say is how good of a player MVP is.


Dude.... the internet isn't one big person talking to you and you can't exactly attribute one person's quote to another guy.
Gameplay > Personality
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
December 02 2011 16:29 GMT
#184
God damn Creator is good.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
December 02 2011 18:00 GMT
#185
On December 03 2011 01:26 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 00:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:52 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:43 MrKn4rz wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:25 Poopi wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:24 DJHelium wrote:
On December 03 2011 00:22 Asha` wrote:
How does Squirtle manage to look so smart and crisp here but looks so awful when in the booth T_T


Probably stage fright, happens to alot of players (MarineKing springs to mind)

MarineKing doesn't have any stage fright, nor camera fright
edit : Mvp fright != stage fright


Actually many korean pros are saying that (source Artosis, god of everything) MKP is not that frightening IRL, but on the ladder he's almost unbeatable.

That's ladder, and ladder maps are way different from GSL maps which don't favor MKP's style.

He raped AOL 1 aswell and this was not on ladder maps. He won because he is better at his home/teamhouse playing online Tournaments.

So? He still loses online tournies, it's not like he's unbeatable like you say at all. Also, I've watched those games, and it's not like he executes better than I see him at live tournaments. His opponents are just much more prepared. He's made it to enough LAN finals to the point where you can't discern performance quality, but his opponents in the live finals are typically 10x better like MVP.

Where did I say he is unbeatable?

"He is almost unbeatable on ladder"

Idk why I'm bothering to talk about this when he didn't even play today, but he has really volatile results because of his builds. It's really not a mystery, but he's had success in high pressure situations like up and down, and gotten deep enough in live tournaments to the point where I'll say he doesn't have nerve issues.

Same with Bomber. He's said so himself that he doesn't have any issues with nerves, and I've never heard of MKP saying anything about it either so people should stop speculating random things like that. The only thing I've heard MKP say is how good of a player MVP is.


Dude.... the internet isn't one big person talking to you and you can't exactly attribute one person's quote to another guy.

thx
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
December 02 2011 18:13 GMT
#186
Protoss hwaiting
haruk
Profile Joined November 2010
216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 03:58:50
December 04 2011 03:57 GMT
#187
On December 03 2011 01:20 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 01:13 haruk wrote:
When mkp's good, he's really really good. When he's bad, he's really really bad. That's why he can make us fans either high or want to bash our heads on a wall. That said, i don't think his problem is nerve issues or weak mentality. His problem is Mvp.

No his mental strength was not the best, not just Mvp.
He himself said (to Polt at least) that he got overconfident in his semi-final against MMA, and threw away a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2. He improved quite a lot on it tho (see his extended serie against sC in prov wouldn'tidence for example), I think that if he improves his tvt to the level of Mvp's one, he will have the mental strenght necessary to beat him.

Anyways it was a great clanwar, but I'm a bit disappointed by the number of protoss/zerg used by both teams, I wanted to see some terran action t;t. Khaldor and ToD did a great job, ToD's commentary is as amazing as always (remember HSC 2? :D).
CreatorPrime displaying his skills again, this young protoss gonna go far in the future (he already helped Prime A LOT in GSTL playoff)


I wouldn't call him mentally weak. Because if he is that he will never get in deep. I would say that when he's focused he is strong. What he is is young and maybe immature. Still unstable and subject to bouts of insecurity. Esp. after losing to Mvp.

Edit:
I'm glad to see more players from prime growing into their own.
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