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DreamHack Winter 2011 Day 2 - Page 71

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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1401
is it just me or does Idra seem to have figured Puma out almost completely? he lost a ton to him when Puma was new to EG but now Idra beats him all the time.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1402
Wow, Orly choose Shakuras, is he crazy ? Huk PvZ is "unbeatable" on this map. (none is unbeatable obv but you got the point)
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1403
On November 25 2011 20:14 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:13 Kira__ wrote:
On November 25 2011 20:12 debasers wrote:
btw, even if IdrA wins 2-0, he won't qualify.

Only if HuK loses a game to this Orly guy, which I seriously doubt


It would be a three way tie


Nop becuase Idra and Huk will have same map score but since Huk beat Idra Huk will go true

I dont quite think you understand how a 3-way tie works
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1404
On November 25 2011 20:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:09 nick1689 wrote:
Idra's ZvT is just too fucking good. Seriously, once he fixes his ZvP (in Korea probably), he's going to be unstoppable :D:D

Funny though how he's like 0-8 against Kas recently.


Kas´s tvz is just too good for idras ling/bling/muta.
Ling bling muta sucks against same supply of marine tank in a straight up fight and as kas has incredible macro, he always has these huge marine tank balls before zerg has established a third.
Its almost impossible to stop it with ling/bling/muta without suffering heavy losses.

I have never seen idras ling/bling/muta work against kas´s marine tank pushes, especially because his third is always so late against kas, as kas opens helion almost every game, and idra just refuses to build roaches.
If you concede your third like that because you refuse to build roaches, you just have that less mutas lings and blings.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1405
On November 25 2011 20:01 hugman wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with Twitch where the image goes outside the stream window so you only see half of it??

i wish i would see only half. twitch doesnt work for me at all today. cant load any streams. no idea whats going on. the rest if the internet is fine, only twitch doesnt work
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
November 25 2011 11:16 GMT
#1406
It would be nice if they would stop calling him Pjuma
"Energy never dies..."
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 11:18:11
November 25 2011 11:17 GMT
#1407
TwitchTv says that I dont have flash player and black-out (pretty sure I do have, everything ie. youtube run just fine). Anyone has this issue ?

edit:

On November 25 2011 20:16 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:01 hugman wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with Twitch where the image goes outside the stream window so you only see half of it??

i wish i would see only half. twitch doesnt work for me at all today. cant load any streams. no idea whats going on. the rest if the internet is fine, only twitch doesnt work

same as this guy
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 11:17:50
November 25 2011 11:17 GMT
#1408
On November 25 2011 20:11 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:10 WaSa wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:58 Poopi wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:55 WaSa wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:52 Lanfire wrote:
hm i dont like Apollo's remark about naniwa is clearly better than Stephano because he won one bo3.



let him go against MVP and Nestea first. Nani is certainly better than stephano atm...

ZvT and ZvZ != PvZ/PvT.
Plus anybody can take maps / beat NesTea & Mvp in america, but nobody can beat Mvp in korea in boX "offline".
Yeah remember GSL october was not in korea haha.


I didn't say he won the GSL. nani beat MVP and Nestea(this one, twice) Stephano hasn't done anything like that (yet). And jesus anybody can take maps from MVP & Nestea? lol...
Also the way he's playing atm, he's definitively worse than nani.

Haypro beat NesTea and took a game off Mvp lol.
So what?
Stephano is still far better than Haypro.


lol keep dodging if it makes you feel better. Nani beat MVP, not "took a game off" and beat Nestea twice. That's slightly better than winning a single map MVP would roflstomp stephano atm lol...
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 11:18:13
November 25 2011 11:17 GMT
#1409
On November 25 2011 20:15 blade55555 wrote:
If Idra beats puma with this roach bust this'll be the first time I have ever seen Idra win with an all in, in a tournament setting go idra!
Vs T? He's done if vs Elfi back at Guangzhou.

Also people, please get the hell out with your Stephano/IdrA/HuK/NaNi fanboying, TB bashing and "X > Y, Y > Z therefore X > Z" logic. >_< It really ruins the thread.
#freeshauni
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 25 2011 11:17 GMT
#1410
On November 25 2011 20:01 hugman wrote:
Does anyone else have a problem with Twitch where the image goes outside the stream window so you only see half of it??

Yes some seems to have this problem:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=288679
Banelings are too cute to blow up
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1411
Idra taking a gold base against 10 blue flame hellions, the fuck idra?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1412
On November 25 2011 20:16 energized wrote:
It would be nice if they would stop calling him Pjuma

That's how it's pronounced for brits.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1413
I dont get why fans of both idra and Stephano fans have to bash each others player every time one of them loses. It is clear that they are both top zergs, no need to bash the other just because they did not do so well in x turny that is on now. As an idra fan it makes me sad to see the other idra fans in this thread being like "lol strphano lost, he is not good"
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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1414
On November 25 2011 20:06 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 19:59 Zeroxk wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:56 hugman wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:52 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 HappyChris wrote:
On November 25 2011 19:36 mrscheng wrote:
so stephano was a fluke


yea Stephano was a fluke just winning 3 tournaments wtf you nub be quit. You cant win them all


LOL you just show up EVERYWHERE when Stephano needs to be protected. Cute.

It really should have been obvious that Stephano wasn't going to do well in this tournament unless he got lucky with his bracket like he normally does. He doesn't have any real determination it seems and you can really only keep falling if you don't have any determination. The only thing keeping him going is money, and that just isn't good enough of a reason to be able to keep up.


The kid has won three major tournaments, all which had strong Koreans in attendence.
You can't take ANYTHING away from him unless he goes on a 6+ month massive slump


Strong Koreans which he didn't have to play (Barring MKP IN ESWC). Alive, boxer and stc all beat him down while he defeated...Inori and Lucky...

Please do not cite the IPL qualifiers, they were online


Thank you. Exactly.

Also, as was another poster already kindly stated, something such as Idra's (or HuK's, since he won the thing) MLG Orlando run, which was far more impressive than any of Stephano's tournament wins since who he played at the tournament was far more challenging than anything Stephano has yet to go through.

That is your personal opinion, nothing more, especially Idra being nicely planted into championship bracket where he defeated Bomber, HongUn and Boxer. Of them only Bomber is arguably (as it seems he was already in a slump that he is in now at that time) actually better than players Stephano beat in his wins. So no Idra's MLG Orlando run is not at all more impressive than Stephano's wins.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1415
On November 25 2011 20:17 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:15 blade55555 wrote:
If Idra beats puma with this roach bust this'll be the first time I have ever seen Idra win with an all in, in a tournament setting go idra!
Vs T? He's done if vs Elfi back at Guangzhou.

Also people, please get the hell out with your Stephano/IdrA/HuK/NaNi fanboying, TB bashing and "X > Y, Y > Z therefore X > Z" logic. >_< It really ruins the thread.


Well thats why I said that I have seen haha . But didn't win so t-t. Also you saying this won't stop it just ignore it
When I think of something else, something will go here
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1416
On November 25 2011 20:14 Catbus wrote:
What is happening between nani vs sheth? My stream died


Not on yet (but in any second)
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
November 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#1417
3 way EG tie blah that would be crazy.
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#1418
On November 25 2011 20:18 Quintum_ wrote:
I dont get why fans of both idra and Stephano fans have to bash each others player every time one of them loses. It is clear that they are both top zergs, no need to bash the other just because they did not do so well in x turny that is on now. As an idra fan it makes me sad to see the other idra fans in this thread being like "lol strphano lost, he is not good"

you are in the minority at least vocal minority
Stork[gm]
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
November 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#1419
Puma just took the lead, I think.
energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
November 25 2011 11:19 GMT
#1420
On November 25 2011 20:18 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 20:16 energized wrote:
It would be nice if they would stop calling him Pjuma

That's how it's pronounced for brits.

Maybe I just have to get used to it
"Energy never dies..."
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