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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:
- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.
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On November 21 2011 10:57 Azarkon wrote:
Okay, I think that Naniwa deserved this loss; having no strategic depth whatsoever is very bad because it opens you to easy counters like these. There is no "perfect" build in SC 2 - every build has its strengths and weaknesses, and a truly great player will have many different builds in his arsenal for different situations.
I guess foreigners are still behind, in that respect.
spot on
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On November 21 2011 10:58 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:57 Troopi wrote:
Mods can basically ban everybody who posted on the last 100 pages. Stop complaining about Leenock trying to win games. (50k$ y know...).
For myself these finals are exciting as hell But I posted there 
Your posts have been fine from what I read.
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omg leenock dont get carried away
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On November 21 2011 10:58 ComusLoM wrote:
Now nani, EXPAND.
He is.
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I understand that TL is probably filled with more Naniwa fans than Leenock fans, but saying that Leenock doesnt deserve the win (after he played the entire way through the OPEN BRACKET), or that he "cheesed his way" into a win is so ignorant.
Naniwa has done the same strategy pretty much every game vs Zerg this tournament. It is obviously something that works for him. Leenock obviously figured this out. Scouting a Nexus before Forge and then punishing it with a roach push isnt cheese.
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On November 21 2011 10:55 Tachion wrote:
too early to say gratz to leenock on the $50k prize? :D
yes. crazier shit has happened
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On November 21 2011 10:58 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:57 Azarkon wrote:
Okay, I think that Naniwa deserved this loss; having no strategic depth whatsoever is very bad because it opens you to easy counters like these. There is no "perfect" build in SC 2 - every build has its strengths and weaknesses, and a truly great player will have many different builds in his arsenal for different situations.
I guess foreigners are still behind, in that respect. spot on
Yep sounds about right, just take a look at MVP, best sc2 player atm.
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On November 21 2011 10:57 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:56 Krallman wrote:On November 21 2011 10:55 Wipples wrote:On November 21 2011 10:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Also getting mind gamed by a 15 year old?
kinda sad. No its not, Leenock is the korean boy genius. Also, yay go Leenock! He's getting cheesed, not mindgamed they're the same. "He cheesed me last game, probably won't do it again!" seriously, who still dies to 7 roach rush 4 times in a row? A normal zerg player when protoss is super greedy. Macro cheese is the same as normal cheese btw.
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ah smart followup, naniwa has so many sentries infested terran will destroy him for sure...
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On November 21 2011 10:57 Lasbike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:57 windsupernova wrote:On November 21 2011 10:56 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
So much for the 'best' Protoss in the world with the 'best' PvZ People were saying that about nani?_? When someone beat Nestea, people tend to do that -_-
He's still the best protoss in the world, say someone who's better
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Leenock, stop playing with your food
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On November 21 2011 10:57 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:55 Shurayuki wrote:On November 21 2011 10:54 taLbuk wrote:
Stop blaming Leenock for perfectly punishing Naniwas FFE, you guys are embarrassing the game of starcraft. again, did you guys not read the first 700 pages or something ♥ You shouldn't repeat other people's retardedness. If they couldn't see that nani was crushing zergs because their BOs sucked then that's their mistake, there was nothing wrong with what nani did, just as there's nothing wrong with what leenock's doing.
I'm just pointing out that people have been shit-talking players for executiong punishing builds all weekend, how can anybody be surprised.
Also people just now in the finals trying to talk sense seems a bit...late?
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lol if you think this LR thread is bad then take a look at the youtube stream live comments
that shit is sickening, no respect shown AT ALL
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On November 21 2011 10:58 m3rciless wrote:
leenock +1 antifan. Its not even about all in or not all in, this just wasn't entertaining.
They don't play to entertain you, remember that.
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such a shame. My stream started freezing so much in the finals. ruining my experience
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On November 21 2011 10:57 King[Neikos] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:51 bkrow wrote:On November 21 2011 10:49 Dfgj wrote:On November 21 2011 10:48 bkrow wrote:
So many low post count users whining about cheese who fail to recognise that it is a direct response to Nani's predictable opening.
Stop being so damn ignorant about the game! Winning a game doesn't mean it was enjoyable to watch for people. Yes but winning the way Leenock is winning doesn't mean he is a terrible player; in fact what he is doing proves that he is an intelligent player that has really thought about his strategies I get that the games aren't entertaining, but appreciate the strategy and mind games behind it Not that i need to say it, but what its going on its not strategy and mind games, its just "oh god I can beat at long game" which transitioned intro "let's try a cheese" which then transitioned into "omg the cheese won, lets keep cheesing", be it that he wins, whatever, do it, that doesn't mean that there is any mind games or strategy behind it, cheese exist because its effective against anything that doesn't prepare for it, and if you prepare and your opponent does not cheese then you are behind and practically forced to all in yourself.
"long game" with Naniwa? He's been two base timing all tournament, that's the ONLY thing he does. It's a strategy game, Naniwa came out with some great timings this tournament and it almost won for him. Leenock counters by punishing the fast expansion and continues to do so until Naniwa stops it. Hating on either player for this type of play is just wrong, they are playing to win, like they should.
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Leenock is following in july's footsteps
the 40 minute game must happen!
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cmon nani, make it interesting
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On November 21 2011 10:58 mvtaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 10:55 raf3776 wrote:On November 21 2011 10:55 Teim wrote:
You can't go into a potential Bo7 with only one build. It's that simple. apparently leenock can Yep, it's called beat a FFE every game
So i guess 1-1-1 was called beat a toss every game, why so much rage by then :o tl making sense rofl
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