• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:01
CEST 20:01
KST 03:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview2[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Semifinals B Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1823 users

MLG Providence Day 3 Live Report Thread - Page 406

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 404 405 406 407 408 890 Next
Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8101
This is AMAZING macro adv
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 21:22:25
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8102
On November 21 2011 06:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The hypocrisy is rampant. Someone create a pdf that outlines which all-ins we should applaud and by whom, and which all-ins we should condemn. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Concerned e-sports fan


Personally, I don't mind whether players go for cheese or all-in strategies. These are perfectly legit strats, people should get over it.

Come on MC !!!!! Ace match go go go
o choro é livre
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8103
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.


You obviously haven't seen all of MC's games if you think that's all he does in PvT -_-
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8104
On November 21 2011 06:19 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Slardar wrote:
Yeah I think he should have stopped making Pheonix, used them to cut off reinforcements, kind of like a ZvT situation and made a few Voidrays. Sick of these Mass marine/tank rushes.

On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?


He was all-in. He cut SCV production at like 21 around there and brought a handful for the push. If he lost that army, it was over no questions.


he was actually still making scv's during almost that entire push, with just a few little blips.


I didn't see a single SCV building, but the second his factory went up he cut production for a good 2-3 in game minutes. It's the exact same Broodwar rush, you get marines ,siege tanks, a few vultures you stop scvs completely and bunker your way into them. Stop trying to argue semantics, that is an all-in (not that I care, but if you don't think that is an all-in then just take my word on it lol.)
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8105
On November 21 2011 06:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.

What is a "normal" TvP build for you then lol?
Even Bomber does double CC, it's standart

people just view the double CC as a double expand. but its not. its just almost the same as zerg where they get macro hatchs.

its a macro cc, just that it has a potential to expand
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8106
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.

Obviously, your definition of "playing normally" and MVP's definition of "playing normally" differ quite a bit.
$♥$
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8107
man the schedule is insane, anyone know how many games MVP had to play before he met MC yesterday? Must have been falling asleep.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8108
I really wish MC would just play a straight up game. He's relying on too many two base shenanigans when he could very well destroy anyone in a macro game
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8109
On November 21 2011 06:21 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:20 -y0shi- wrote:

On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?



I forgot, when terrans do it its a "timing push", right?

Mc was playing anti-111 which he HAS to do. He couldnt scout what was going on and got metagamed...


anti 1/1/1 is an econ open with a ton of gates and robo tech, hero's the only one I know who held it with a stargate open besides that one time at MLG when MC held it on meta close air, and that was specifically because of the positions.

Yes it was a timing


Actually, MC held a 1-1-1 from Rain TWICE at the last MLG with Phoenix.

Phoenix is definitely one of the best anti-1-1-1 builds out there.
rontol
Profile Joined June 2011
71 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8110
rofl.... the hate against all-in....

xd

Life is a (fateful) choice
gold_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada312 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8111
Oh my MVP, not again please...
I am from Canada, eh!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8112
On November 21 2011 06:21 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:18 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:16 Fyzar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?

Just as much as MC was in the Shakuras game.


Yeah except MC prepared specifically to all-in and win. Difference is MVP just reacted to the situation in front of him and straight up crushed it. That's what happens when you try and open Phoenix vs. T on that map.


MVP in no way "reacted" to the Phoenix. His timing attack was decided at the start, going fast Seige Tanks with Seige mode to go into a long macro game is suicide. That was a 1base timing push, simple as that.


actually polt and many EU terrans have been using siege tanks to expo on wide nat maps for a long time, since beta actually, and have been recently renewed in popularity, just look at this game on meta
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8113
MVP: Hey u liek that strat from last game? here it is again but on 2 base
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8114
god MVP why you so good -_-'
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8115
MC YOU NEED CHARGE NOT BLINK!
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8116
Ya MVP great contain
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8117
mvps tvp pushes look impossible to stop, so brutal
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8118
Very scary poosh from MVP hold in there MC
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8119
I would actually be happy if anyone but DRG wins.
Leenock, because he is soooo good, and a mini July.
Nani because he's a foreigner.
MVP cause he's the best in the world.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8120
On November 21 2011 06:20 alpsi wrote:
why does this chat always have to be filled with posts arguing if someone went allin or not? cant ppl just enjoy these games lol


When the LR is called chat is the moment we got a whole new level of low.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Prev 1 404 405 406 407 408 890 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
16:00
RO8 TieBreaker
TBD vs SterlingLIVE!
eOnzErG vs TBD
ZZZero.O350
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
16:00
Ro16 Group A
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
Airneanach49
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech138
JuggernautJason89
BRAT_OK 69
MindelVK 31
Railgan 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22936
ZZZero.O 350
firebathero 263
Mini 229
hero 128
Dewaltoss 50
Aegong 37
Rock 23
soO 10
Dota 2
Gorgc8000
qojqva1356
monkeys_forever175
Other Games
Grubby18320
singsing2103
FrodaN1689
Liquid`RaSZi1255
Beastyqt980
B2W.Neo645
KnowMe227
ArmadaUGS136
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick985
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 49
• Adnapsc2 18
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie756
• Shiphtur251
• tFFMrPink 12
Upcoming Events
BSL
59m
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Patches Events
4h 44m
GSL
13h 59m
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
21h 59m
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
1d
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.