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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8101
This is AMAZING macro adv
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 21:22:25
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8102
On November 21 2011 06:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The hypocrisy is rampant. Someone create a pdf that outlines which all-ins we should applaud and by whom, and which all-ins we should condemn. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Concerned e-sports fan


Personally, I don't mind whether players go for cheese or all-in strategies. These are perfectly legit strats, people should get over it.

Come on MC !!!!! Ace match go go go
o choro é livre
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8103
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.


You obviously haven't seen all of MC's games if you think that's all he does in PvT -_-
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8104
On November 21 2011 06:19 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Slardar wrote:
Yeah I think he should have stopped making Pheonix, used them to cut off reinforcements, kind of like a ZvT situation and made a few Voidrays. Sick of these Mass marine/tank rushes.

On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?


He was all-in. He cut SCV production at like 21 around there and brought a handful for the push. If he lost that army, it was over no questions.


he was actually still making scv's during almost that entire push, with just a few little blips.


I didn't see a single SCV building, but the second his factory went up he cut production for a good 2-3 in game minutes. It's the exact same Broodwar rush, you get marines ,siege tanks, a few vultures you stop scvs completely and bunker your way into them. Stop trying to argue semantics, that is an all-in (not that I care, but if you don't think that is an all-in then just take my word on it lol.)
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8105
On November 21 2011 06:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.

What is a "normal" TvP build for you then lol?
Even Bomber does double CC, it's standart

people just view the double CC as a double expand. but its not. its just almost the same as zerg where they get macro hatchs.

its a macro cc, just that it has a potential to expand
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8106
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.

Obviously, your definition of "playing normally" and MVP's definition of "playing normally" differ quite a bit.
$♥$
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8107
man the schedule is insane, anyone know how many games MVP had to play before he met MC yesterday? Must have been falling asleep.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8108
I really wish MC would just play a straight up game. He's relying on too many two base shenanigans when he could very well destroy anyone in a macro game
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8109
On November 21 2011 06:21 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:20 -y0shi- wrote:

On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?



I forgot, when terrans do it its a "timing push", right?

Mc was playing anti-111 which he HAS to do. He couldnt scout what was going on and got metagamed...


anti 1/1/1 is an econ open with a ton of gates and robo tech, hero's the only one I know who held it with a stargate open besides that one time at MLG when MC held it on meta close air, and that was specifically because of the positions.

Yes it was a timing


Actually, MC held a 1-1-1 from Rain TWICE at the last MLG with Phoenix.

Phoenix is definitely one of the best anti-1-1-1 builds out there.
rontol
Profile Joined June 2011
71 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8110
rofl.... the hate against all-in....

xd

Life is a (fateful) choice
gold_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada312 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8111
Oh my MVP, not again please...
I am from Canada, eh!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#8112
On November 21 2011 06:21 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:18 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:16 Fyzar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?

Just as much as MC was in the Shakuras game.


Yeah except MC prepared specifically to all-in and win. Difference is MVP just reacted to the situation in front of him and straight up crushed it. That's what happens when you try and open Phoenix vs. T on that map.


MVP in no way "reacted" to the Phoenix. His timing attack was decided at the start, going fast Seige Tanks with Seige mode to go into a long macro game is suicide. That was a 1base timing push, simple as that.


actually polt and many EU terrans have been using siege tanks to expo on wide nat maps for a long time, since beta actually, and have been recently renewed in popularity, just look at this game on meta
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8113
MVP: Hey u liek that strat from last game? here it is again but on 2 base
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8114
god MVP why you so good -_-'
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8115
MC YOU NEED CHARGE NOT BLINK!
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8116
Ya MVP great contain
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8117
mvps tvp pushes look impossible to stop, so brutal
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8118
Very scary poosh from MVP hold in there MC
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8119
I would actually be happy if anyone but DRG wins.
Leenock, because he is soooo good, and a mini July.
Nani because he's a foreigner.
MVP cause he's the best in the world.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 20 2011 21:23 GMT
#8120
On November 21 2011 06:20 alpsi wrote:
why does this chat always have to be filled with posts arguing if someone went allin or not? cant ppl just enjoy these games lol


When the LR is called chat is the moment we got a whole new level of low.
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