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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8081
On November 21 2011 06:18 andaylin wrote:
this is one of those protoss all in maps.


No one is forcing you to watch this you know. You can leave whenever the heck you desire.

Stop thinking so 1-dimensional.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8082
On November 21 2011 06:19 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:17 Lavi wrote:
why is the most solid and safe macro player winning is considered boring? do you want to see 2 base timing to dominate sc2? -_- is it because mvp is terran?


Seriously, MVP games are anything but boring. They are masterpiece, a glimpse of what the pinnacle of a player looks like. Cheese, macro games, strategic timings, he has it all! MC on the other hand, mostly all ins. I guess that's not boring for some people!


Exactly, and he is the best mech player in the world.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8083
On November 21 2011 06:16 TutsiRebel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:14 sleepingdog wrote:
MC failing a 2 base all-in --> hate for MC

MVP doing a 1 base all-in --> more hate for MC

sometimes you gotta love TL-LR-threads


MVP knew a gateway phoenix all in was coming, and he stopped it COLD before it could pick up any momentum. That was NOT a preemptive 1 base all in.

Wrong. MC went for phoenix because he expected 1-1-1. It was just a BO loss no all in intended by MC.
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8084
On November 21 2011 06:19 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:17 Lavi wrote:
why is the most solid and safe macro player winning is considered boring? do you want to see 2 base timing to dominate sc2? -_- is it because mvp is terran?


Seriously, MVP games are anything but boring. They are masterpiece, a glimpse of what the pinnacle of a player looks like. Cheese, macro games, strategic timings, he has it all! MC on the other hand, mostly all ins. I guess that's not boring for some people!

reminds me of the bw where flash played so solid that people said it was boring, lol

THE MAKING OF THE ULTIMATE WEAPON, 2.0
alpsi
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 21:24:52
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8085
why does this thread always have to be filled with posts arguing if someone went allin or not? cant ppl just enjoy these games lol
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8086
On November 21 2011 06:19 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:17 Lavi wrote:
why is the most solid and safe macro player winning is considered boring? do you want to see 2 base timing to dominate sc2? -_- is it because mvp is terran?


Seriously, MVP games are anything but boring. They are masterpiece, a glimpse of what the pinnacle of a player looks like. Cheese, macro games, strategic timings, he has it all! MC on the other hand, mostly all ins. I guess that's not boring for some people!


MVP is one of those players who has the highest level of mechanics AND strategy
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#8087
On November 21 2011 06:17 Swiv wrote:
i dont get why so many people love mc.... such an arrogant guy...


Whaaa..? Because people do love him he does what the fans want. It is like music, if just generally dislike something or don't comprehend it then it's no point arguing with people who do like it.

I like MC. He is a fun guy. He makes me smile. He is a damn good protoss. How is this a bad thing?
Seohyun fan
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8088
look at that mule mine the shit out of that bunker
Do you really want chat rooms?
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8089
On November 21 2011 06:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The hypocrisy is rampant. Someone create a pdf that outlines which all-ins we should applaud and by whom, and which all-ins we should condemn. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Concerned e-sports fan


The thing is MVP mixes some timming attacks and all ins but he usually plays macro oriented games and he is godly at it. MC is all about timming attacks and all ins
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8090
On November 21 2011 06:20 -y0shi- wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?



I forgot, when terrans do it its a "timing push", right?

Mc was playing anti-111 which he HAS to do. He couldnt scout what was going on and got metagamed...


He picked the map
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8091
MVP IS DOING THE MKP BUILD!!!!!!!
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8092
On November 21 2011 06:20 Slardar wrote:
MC is definitely a crowd pleaser as opposed to MVP.... he just plays.. his game.. doesn't say anything. Obviously really safe, strong, standard style in general. Half the time I don't even like MC's Playstyle but his showboating is amazing.

That murloc GIF made MLG... cmon guys. #1 Control in the world is nothing to insult. MC plays to his strength, he is smart.


MVP is quietly Brilliant. Excuse yourself
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8093
On November 21 2011 06:19 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 andaylin wrote:
hows the taste of all in MC? :D


MC all-ins: "Oh, MC is so bad, he just relies on all-ins"

MVP all-ins: "JUSTICE, loving MVP's perfect play"

Ah, TL.

Nice timing from MVP, although that was pretty much a BO loss from MC.

That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards.


It's completely wrong.
MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint.

What is a "normal" TvP build for you then lol?
Even Bomber does double CC, it's standart
WriterMaru
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8094
On November 21 2011 06:20 alpsi wrote:
why does this chat always have to be filled with posts arguing if someone went allin or not? cant ppl just enjoy these games lol

they like to summarise, they teach it at school dont they ^^
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8095
On November 21 2011 06:20 McFeser wrote:
IM SO SORRY! This is offtopic, but Haypro defeated Nestea? I was litterally looking at the bracket for five minutes (after coming back from church) going through who defeated who. I saw the Haypro bit, went "Oh, he defeated Nestea", walked away, made a sandwhich, then had a mental breakdown when I realized that Haypro defeated Nestea.


How dare you discuss the results of the tournament in it's LR -thread!!
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8096
MVP DOIN THE MKP BUILD W00T
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8097
finally able to watch.

should i rewatch the vod for naniwa mvp? any other series?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8098
I woke up 20 minutes ago to see that Haypro beat Nestea and Leenock beat Huk. MY DAY IS MADE :3. Now to watch even more awesome stuff!!!
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8099
On November 21 2011 06:18 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:16 Fyzar wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?

Just as much as MC was in the Shakuras game.


Yeah except MC prepared specifically to all-in and win. Difference is MVP just reacted to the situation in front of him and straight up crushed it. That's what happens when you try and open Phoenix vs. T on that map.


MVP in no way "reacted" to the Phoenix. His timing attack was decided at the start, going fast Seige Tanks with Seige mode to go into a long macro game is suicide. That was a 1base timing push, simple as that.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 20 2011 21:21 GMT
#8100
On November 21 2011 06:20 -y0shi- wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:14 -y0shi- wrote:
and people call mc an alliner.. so lame..


I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game?



I forgot, when terrans do it its a "timing push", right?

Mc was playing anti-111 which he HAS to do. He couldnt scout what was going on and got metagamed...


anti 1/1/1 is an econ open with a ton of gates and robo tech, hero's the only one I know who held it with a stargate open besides that one time at MLG when MC held it on meta close air, and that was specifically because of the positions.

Yes it was a timing
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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