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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly: - NO Balance Whine. - NO Player Bashing. - NO Caster Bashing. - NO BM whatsoever. Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 Nate.F wrote: they met in the upper bracket. if ur referring to gsl seasons, iirc it was a group stage in the ro32 where MVP went for a 2 base 1/1/1 with bunkers on antiga for the sickest contain. They met in WCG where they went 1-1. | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:16 TutsiRebel wrote: MVP knew a gateway phoenix all in was coming, and he stopped it COLD before it could pick up any momentum. That was NOT a preemptive 1 base all in. making tanks in TvP is in *almost* all cases indicating an allin or some contain play. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:16 Telcontar wrote: That's because MC almost always uses those strats, whereas MVP is an all-rounder. If MC can show he can play any style as well as MVP, you can start accusing people of double standards. It's completely wrong. MVP's TvP is gimmicky as hell. It's either a one base all in, or a greedy as fuck 3 base before gas. Guaranteed. If he plays normally he loses. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a god, but don't be like MC is all that is bad in the world while MVP is a saint. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
Sincerely, Concerned e-sports fan | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 SeaSwift wrote: NOBODY goes for Phoenix in PvT to all-in. Phoenix is specifically designed to a) counter Starport play and b) to open into a standard game. And guess what MVP didn't build , a Starport. My guess if MVP knows ( like alot of guys ) MC like to go Stargate if he feels 1-1-1 incoming so he goes something that crushes Phoenix. MC had like 8 Phoenix basically beeing useless. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:16 Slardar wrote: Yeah I think he should have stopped making Pheonix, used them to cut off reinforcements, kind of like a ZvT situation and made a few Voidrays.  Sick of these Mass marine/tank rushes. He was all-in. He cut SCV production at like 21 around there and brought a handful for the push. If he lost that army, it was over no questions. he was actually still making scv's during almost that entire push, with just a few little blips. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 Flanq wrote: Only thing i can think of was flying his phoenix's round the map. The phoenix were sitting still, so I'm mystified. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:17 Lavi wrote: why is the most solid and safe macro player winning is considered boring? do you want to see 2 base timing to dominate sc2? -_- is it because mvp is terran? Seriously, MVP games are anything but boring. They are masterpiece, a glimpse of what the pinnacle of a player looks like. Cheese, macro games, strategic timings, he has it all! MC on the other hand, mostly all ins. I guess that's not boring for some people! | ||
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Nate.F
918 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:19 mordk wrote: You haven't heard enough of his interviews. He's not arrogant at all, he likes to make a lot of fun out of himself, that's why people like him. people love a badboy personality. and thinking hes plain arrogant is just a perspective thing | ||
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 SeaSwift wrote: NOBODY goes for Phoenix in PvT to all-in. Phoenix is specifically designed to a) counter Starport play and b) to open into a standard game. Common sense isn't very common so most people won't see that. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:15 MasterKush wrote: I hope you're not trying to suggest that MVP was all-in that game? I forgot, when terrans do it its a "timing push", right? Mc was playing anti-111 which he HAS to do. He couldnt scout what was going on and got metagamed... | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 Micket wrote: 1/1/1 blind counters lose to this push it seems. MVP really clever or really lucky. 1/1/1 blind counters every protoss 1 base allin except colossus with range, that takes some micro, it's why it was so popular in the gsl for so long, and why toss now expo every chance they get, for MC to 1 base on a map known to be popular for 1/1/1 after he PICKED it is mind boggling, even though it was only a 1/1 lol | ||
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Fearest
854 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:18 Nate.F wrote: they met in the upper bracket. if ur referring to gsl seasons, iirc it was a group stage in the ro32 where MVP went for a 2 base 1/1/1 with bunkers on antiga for the sickest contain. Ohh that's right, I was thinking about Naniwa's vs MVP and MVP lost.. and if he lost to MC then it should already eliminate him.. but naniwa vs mvp wasn't part of this tournament | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
not necessarily. you could be in america rooting for someone in europe | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
That murloc GIF made MLG... cmon guys. #1 Control in the world is nothing to insult. MC plays to his strength, he is smart. | ||
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On November 21 2011 06:19 Tommylew wrote: well Nani is our only hope  Hope eithier Nani orLeenock wins # Both have been impressive. I have the same rooting interests. I'd like Leenock to win because he's a young man and it would be touching to watch him get a huge win and have the crowd go crazy for him. I'd like Naniwa to win for the same reason I use to want Idra to win: He's great, and people love to hate him, so it's always fun to watch the reaction when he does well. | ||
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