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Thread unlocked. Please THINK before you post, and rest assured that ANY infringement of the rules will be dealt with severely.

NO caster bashing
NO balance whine
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Thanks!

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8561
On November 20 2011 10:34 Callobono wrote:
Gota love how people cheer so hard for an allmost blind hardcounter to mvps insainly greedy tec build but w/e

I think people are happy MC won, not necessarily the means that he did it. They're just mad at all hte terran lovers, when all the terrans think that 5 bunkers despite stupid greedy ass play should hold off a blind all-in.
liftlift > tsm
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8562
On November 20 2011 10:35 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:30 Raambo11 wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:29 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:28 kofman wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:27 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:26 kofman wrote:
Its crazy how when MVP loses to a timing attack that he prepared for perfectly, people just say "he played greedy", while whenever Toss loses to 111 or 3 rax or anything like that, its immediatly imba.


Because it's true lol

Just look at the MLG brackets, and tell me that Terran is OP.


Just look at the amount of Protoss tournament wins within the past 3 months and tell me that Protoss is OP



Just look at the number of terran nerfs and awful protoss play and tell me...


Really... we've fallen to this? Sure... Protoss is only limited of 100% win because there is 0 good players playing protoss. Or else a few good players actually figured out how to play it - and through endless training they've achieved a winrate above 50% which is nearly unbelievable by terran-biased players

If I went on a rant like people are in this thread every time a good protoss lost I'd have well over a thousand posts

A lot of Protoss were playing poor and uncreative back then. They were playing especially poor against good opponents.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8563
i just joined the stream, have they said anything about the idra vs mc match? are they going to stream it? would love an answer
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8564
Every matchup has a story

[image loading]
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8565
All 4 of the big matchs are awesome

Nani vs Nestea
Idra vs MC
Hero vs Huk
MMA vs DRG

hope they all somehow get streamed.
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8566
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8567
viOlet taking game 1 off MKP in convincing fashion
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 20 2011 01:37 GMT
#8568
On November 20 2011 10:35 Xxavi wrote:
I agree with some, that game was kinda short, I would have enjoyed a longer MVP vs MC games.

However, MC played better and deserved to win. Even in the second game when he lost, it was due to a bad engagement, otherwise, he looked like crushing MVP.

Either I am having difficulty to judge terran play, or MVP didn't show anything impressive in this series.

As for people complaining when Terrans do timing pushes, and cheering if Protoss do, I explain this by the fact that there are plenty of terrans, and almost no protoss at the top level. That's the reason.


But what impressive play can terran show? And what was so impressive about MC's play?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8569
On November 20 2011 10:37 henrikyo wrote:
i just joined the stream, have they said anything about the idra vs mc match? are they going to stream it? would love an answer

Normally speaking it should be the last game for today. They never said they would delay it for tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:39:35
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8570
Here are my predictions for the rest of this tourney!! (I'm not totally sure how they reseed the players from the championship winners into losers, so there might be some mistakes on that part.

[image loading]
Never say die
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8571
wow marineking T_T
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Casablancas
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark145 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8572
On November 20 2011 10:36 ChowChillaCharlie wrote:
Lol naniwa said it again, here comes the shitstorm~ xD


Im on the other stream, what did he say?
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:38:53
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8573
Is Major going air heavy mech?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:38:37
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8574
On November 20 2011 10:36 muffley wrote:
[image loading]

MC so awesome.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8575
On November 20 2011 10:32 Legend` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:30 Raambo11 wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:29 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:28 kofman wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:27 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:26 kofman wrote:
Its crazy how when MVP loses to a timing attack that he prepared for perfectly, people just say "he played greedy", while whenever Toss loses to 111 or 3 rax or anything like that, its immediatly imba.


Because it's true lol

Just look at the MLG brackets, and tell me that Terran is OP.


Just look at the amount of Protoss tournament wins within the past 3 months and tell me that Protoss is OP



Just look at the number of terran nerfs and awful protoss play and tell me...


Protoss play hasn't been "awful". It's just that 200 food infestor/broodlord with roach reinforcement will beat anything other than an archon toilet, and 200 food viking ghost marauder medivac will beat anything Protoss has, period, providing that you don't suicide the ghosts/vikings before the fight.

Time out.

There are certain colossus/archon/templar/chargelot with a few stalker unit comps that Protoss can field that slap the shit out of MMM/viking/ghost provided the templars are utilized properly.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8576
On November 20 2011 10:36 mordk wrote:
People have it all wrong about the 1-1-1. The problem with the 1-1-1 is that it punished nearly every protoss build (It's extremely hard to hold even with the builds that supposedly counter it), coupled with the fact that it can't be scouted, because when you scout it it doesn't matter anymore, you're already dead. Even when held, the second wave can finish off most openers.

MC's 6-gate shares none of these characteristics, it can be easily scouted and adequately countered with easy builds.

This is no balance whine, I'm just stating the reasons why 1-1-1 is so hard to hold and why, you just need to know it's gonna happen before the game starts. For instance, when playing PuMa, MC instantly goes with his Phoenix play because he knows PuMa's gonna go for 1-1-1. I believe it was Hero who tried a proxy stargate opener on XNF against PuMa as well, because he KNEW it was gonna happen.

Clarivoyance shouldn't matter in a game of starcraft . 6-gate doesn't require clairvoyance.


On Taldarim it is like the 1-1-1 . On that particular Map ( maybe some others Maps not sure ) it's superhard to stop if you don't expect it to happen.
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8577
Wow after all that BM I hope Nestea completely crushes here.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8578
On November 20 2011 10:31 kofman wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:30 CocoPoofs wrote:
Terrans when Toss complains about 1/1/1: it's an allin, stop playing greedy and expanding

Now look at all the hypocrisy when MVP loses to an allin while playing super greedy. He had 4 bunkers sure, but do 4 cannons help much against a 1/1/1?

Yes, 4 cannons do help...
Then terran walks around your cannons or drops in your main.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8579
Slasher Rod Breslau
Naniwa vs NesTea coming up NEXT. Seems both players have ceremonies planned. #MLG
cant wait!!!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
November 20 2011 01:38 GMT
#8580
On November 20 2011 10:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:37 henrikyo wrote:
i just joined the stream, have they said anything about the idra vs mc match? are they going to stream it? would love an answer

Normally speaking it should be the last game for today. They never said they would delay it for tomorrow.

thanks
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