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Thread unlocked. Please THINK before you post, and rest assured that ANY infringement of the rules will be dealt with severely.

NO caster bashing
NO balance whine
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NO bad manner of any sort

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nofacej
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia164 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8481
In a heavy macro build like that you have to sacrifice something. Mvp went for everything at once and ended up sacrificing the win. Mvp could have held that, but he needed to delay his tech even further to compensate for the 3rd CC. The Factory and Starport could have been extra Barracks and a lot more Marauders. Mvp holds in that case.
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8482
The Gracken vs The Murloc coming up on red stream!!
Who will win??
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8483
mkp walling off his marines with bunkers
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8484
lovely placement by MKP
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:34:32
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8485
On November 20 2011 10:28 Nocteo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:27 ToguRo wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:25 Mouzone wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:24 PG13 wrote:
No wonders even MVP doesn't have answer for this shit. LOL, build 4 bunkers -> lose anyway


Siege tanks > that.


Terran isnt allowed to make Tanks in TvP......


Because tanks are incredibly bad in TvP


and still 1 Tank could have crushed that all-in. in contrast to all the "good" things MVP did. (which he didn't he was way to greedy going for everything at once)

maybe terrans should rethink what the definition of Bad and good is.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8486
that 6 gate is partly why i dislike protoss, and why i could not stand the whine from all these protoss players about terran OP when they have not figured out how to play good macro games like double forge with robo.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8487
On November 20 2011 10:31 hysterial wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:27 Legend` wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:26 kofman wrote:
Its crazy how when MVP loses to a timing attack that he prepared for perfectly, people just say "he played greedy", while whenever Toss loses to 111 or 3 rax or anything like that, its immediatly imba.


Because it's true lol


How is that true? Cmon i'm a toss player who called 1-1-1 a bit imba, and I will say 6 gate is the exact same. A very strong timing push.


3ccs that early is asking for it. There was a window and MC hit that window with good control.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8488
I will be so happy if Nestea completely crushes naniwa now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8489
On November 20 2011 10:32 oogieogie wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:22 Badfatpanda wrote:
PuMa uses tanks to do a 2 base timing-15 pages of rage

MC allins to beat MVP in the deciding match-15 pages of cheers

good series but the bias is definitely a tad retarded lmfao

zerg all ins any matchup/win - 15 pages of cheer

protoss does it vs a terran/win - 15 pages of cheer

terran does it vs protoss/win - 15 pages of rage

terran does it vs zerg/win - 15 pages of rage

protoss does it vs zerg/win - 15 pages of rage

That is usually how it goes not counting players.



+1
yo
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8490
On November 20 2011 10:32 Soulish wrote:
are there any more games today btw


are u watching the stream????????
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8491
On November 20 2011 10:30 hugman wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:24 scaban84 wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote:
omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?

id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game....

He played greedy by going for a third CC. He had no Siege Tanks.

Siege tanks lol, who the fuck does macro oriented siege tank play in TvP? Goody?

Nani vs Major. Major built tanks stopped an allin and won. Think it was blizzcon.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8492
On November 20 2011 10:30 fatworthlessvirgin wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote:
Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.

MC pretty damn lucky.

MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine.

This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT.


it's not really greedy. it's completely standard on any other map, but Tal Darim has no ramp and really hard to hold off all in. Mvp just read MC wrongly i guess.

Dude, if double ups that haven't kicked in, a factor and starport that hasn't kicked in, and a 3rd CC at 7 minutes isn't greedy what is greedy for a T? If a protoss did a 3rd nexus, dropped two forges and went straight for colossi and lost this wouldn't even be a discussion. If a zerg over drones (the same thing as the 3rd CC) they would be called greedy. MVP's army was MUCH smaller, he had less production, just because he had a few bunkers doesn't mean it wasn't greedy.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:34:33
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8493
On November 20 2011 10:30 Mentalizor wrote:
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On November 20 2011 10:23 ViceZ wrote:
mc vs idra is like the el clasico, cant wait


No interntion of America-bashing... But I did not think americans knew what El Clasico is

But yeah, it's a fine combo of 3 great things:
1: Two good players. Willing to macro or all in at any time (well IdrA after 12mins)
2: Rivalry always makes for better games
3: The amount of potential BM (and entertainment) is through the roof

It(El Clasico) also includes a lot of cheating, sobbing ,trying to fool the refs, etc.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8494
On November 20 2011 10:32 theBALLS wrote:
major has some issues. wtf is with his names.


schizophrenia perhaps? :D

Dunno but all those names makes me think of some pedophile guy pretending to be someone else... Anyone else getting these vibes?
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8495
Nani versus Nestea before HuK versus CUTE TOSS
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8496
On November 20 2011 10:31 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 10:26 Jakkerr wrote:
On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote:
omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?

id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game....


It's not so much what MVP did wrong, it's what MC did right.
MVP played really greedy and MC made use of that with a perfect timing push.
If MC would have attacked 2 minutes later MVP's third CC would have been paid off and MVP would have had enough units.
MVP took a risk and paid for it.
That attack wasn't about 'what should he have done more' at all

Oh come on, MC's all-in was blind and it happened to work out. A 6-gate stands a decent chance against a 1 rax FE as is on TDA, and with MVP playing supergreedy MC's chances just went up. MC all-inned, which is fine, but its what every P in the world flames every T out there for doing.

MC took just as big a risk as MVP did.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that. It's just all hte terran fanboys thinks that for some reason a TOTAL build order loss, should still be able to some how hold an all in just because you have magical bunkers.
liftlift > tsm
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8497
xSixCuteAngel.. really Gosi?
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8498
So many awesome runbacks this tourney

Hero / Huk and Nestea / Naniwa

*eternalenvy fanboy*
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8499
If anything MC didn't know about MVP's 3rd CC and Double Ebay upgrades, he decided to Leeroy Jenkins the attack with his 6-gates. It worked and for his reward, murloc suit dancing.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 01:34:12
November 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#8500
TL moderators will have a lot of work if Idra loses to MC
Terran & Potato Salad.
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