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ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 17 2011 05:40 GMT
#41
On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.

I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?

Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.

That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.


that's gretorp for you...that's why i stopped watching NASL and just wait for the results to post. On related note, someone need to update the bracket with results...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 05:58 GMT
#42
On November 17 2011 14:40 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.

I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?

Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.

That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.


that's gretorp for you...that's why i stopped watching NASL and just wait for the results to post. On related note, someone need to update the bracket with results...


After EU rebroadcast I will
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Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
November 17 2011 07:27 GMT
#43
On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.


Even if Stephano win the whole even't he can't go to the NASL live final cause he is in Korea at that time cause of the Blizzard Cup from Gom TV
Pif Paf Pouf
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
November 17 2011 07:53 GMT
#44
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 17 2011 08:29 GMT
#45
On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.


Thorzain is just that more baller.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 17 2011 09:04 GMT
#46
LiveZerg slaying all the nerds
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 17 2011 09:16 GMT
#47
On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.


I think the benefit of a month or so in Korea is marginal. You'd need a long term compitement for it to really start showing, it's not magic.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#48
ThorZaiN just far too good for MajOr, well played.

scruffeh
Profile Joined November 2010
England196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 09:37:38
November 17 2011 09:37 GMT
#49
On November 17 2011 16:53 Sandermatt wrote:
It doesn't seem that Major could profit a lot from his korean practice. he didn't do that well at Blizzcon and now he lost again.

To be fair, Thorzain has spent time in Korea too, and he was probably a better player to start with. At Blizzcon Major lost to Naniwa originally, and the same applies there really. He's a really good player, with great potential. I'm pleased for Thorzain though, nice to see him demonstrate his skills.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 11:08:31
November 17 2011 11:07 GMT
#50
Wasn't the RO16 of winner bracket supposed to be finished yesterday ?
NASL2 Open Tournament Schedule
Anyone for the results ?
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 17 2011 11:25 GMT
#51
Good choice of games I must say, a bit of awesome, a bit of unknowns
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 11:53:15
November 17 2011 11:52 GMT
#52
tl coverage on tourney is better than one u find on nasl.tv
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
November 17 2011 11:55 GMT
#53
anyone know what map the first game between Killer and LiveZerg was played on? the one with the four(?) mineral patches that have to be mined to get access to the expansion, it seemed cool.
That puppy is killing e-sports
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
November 17 2011 12:19 GMT
#54
On November 17 2011 20:55 karlmengsk wrote:
anyone know what map the first game between Killer and LiveZerg was played on? the one with the four(?) mineral patches that have to be mined to get access to the expansion, it seemed cool.

Good question. I like seeing new, community made, maps getting into the scene lately. The IPL mapmaking tournament from the last couple days has been pretty interesting.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 16:57 GMT
#55
On November 17 2011 20:07 samurai80 wrote:
Wasn't the RO16 of winner bracket supposed to be finished yesterday ?
NASL2 Open Tournament Schedule
Anyone for the results ?


I will update the bracket after the EU rebroadcast
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Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 17 2011 17:18 GMT
#56
Isnt the EU broadcast suposed to start now?
Always look on the bright side of life
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 17 2011 17:28 GMT
#57
On November 18 2011 02:18 Deckkie wrote:
Isnt the EU broadcast suposed to start now?


It's started. TL calendar was entered incorrectly.

But yes, join us on Twitch or on our site. We are live.
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
November 17 2011 17:57 GMT
#58
Where is the vod??
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#59
On November 18 2011 02:57 IronManSC wrote:
Where is the vod??


VODs always go up after the EU broadcast
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 19:00:30
November 17 2011 18:49 GMT
#60
Just lost some respect for KawaiiRice... what he says doesn't make much sense imo, Artifice and Overgrown aren't even as big as Terminus, Tal'Darim or Calm Before the Storm,...

Also what Zelniq said is so true lol, quite funny how that game was casted by Gretorp..
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
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