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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#21
On November 17 2011 11:46 SMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 11:43 Dexington wrote:
lol KR calling out TPW


just got here, what happened?


This game just started, KR spent like 2 minutes hating on the map.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 03:14:42
November 17 2011 03:03 GMT
#22
Zelniq...was horrible. Does he know about the fungal growth ability? So many times he had infestors with large amounts of energy just waddling away from large groups of marines. I can't understand why he didn't use fungal growth, surely he knows that marines are faster than infestors...
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 04:03:15
November 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#23
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. In fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.

I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking.
Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I had suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks. But once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was. Another example was shortly before the end, after a battle went in my opponent's favor, and all I had left over were a few infestors all with < 75 energy off creep, there were stimmed marines were chasing them down and there was no way for them to escape. So when the infestors spammed their remaining energy on infested terrans before dying, gretorp points out how dumb I am for casting the infested terrans in a spot that blocked the infestors from retreating.............except stimmed marines chasing them/even being microed to move and attack were going to kill the infestors no matter what anyways, regardless of where I casted the terrans? It's like you said.. does gretorp not know that stimmed marines outrun infestors?

Yet another example would be when my 3rd had just finished, and the larvae had just built up to 3, gretorp points out that mistake in some annoying fashion whose wording I don't remember. But he doesn't just stop there, no that's not enough. He has to use that instance of not-spending 2 larva before it goes up to 3, (which really was a fairly major factor in BW at all points in the game for zerg to try to avoid, but in SC2 after a certain point, keeping a hatchery's larva below 3 becomes fairly insignificant compared to larva injects/how well you're doing them. which btw up to 9 minutes it was perfect, each queen's energy was below 25 when the spawn larva popped off the hatch. at 12 min my queens have a whopping 30 energy and 34 energy as the spawns pop, OMG TERRIBLE MACRO), as his gateway to go into a relatively long rant about how terrible I am and how my macro's falling apart.

That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They berated me almost nonstop.. if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this was too much. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I don't even know what they said about me before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 17 2011 03:52 GMT
#24
Wait a second... LiveZerg beat Stephano?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 17 2011 03:54 GMT
#25
On November 17 2011 12:52 Dexington wrote:
Wait a second... LiveZerg beat Stephano?


I think Stephano didn't show maybe
sAviOr...
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 17 2011 03:57 GMT
#26
On November 17 2011 12:37 Zelniq wrote:
so not only was the casting extremely unfair, probably one of the most unfairly harsh casts I've ever heard.. now I've random hate that's just flat out not true. I just went over the replay, not a single time did that happen. Iin fact the only infestor that ever got killed with fungal energy was right before the end, when i was reacting to a drop and he sniped one infestor at that time.

I'll admit I made some bad decisions that game.. but the major ones weren't even mentioned by either of the casters because they were too busy criticizing me for things that didn't even make sense, overly berating me for things that were relatively insignificant, because their knowledge/understanding is lacking. Like for example they went on a huge tirade about how stupid and terrible I am for getting +2 air attack, when I suddenly stopped muta production and switched to infestors. Is it really so hard to understand that I started that +2 attack before I noticed he was only going marine? My mutas saw a forward factory w/ tech lab, and most every terran gets tanks..once I noticed that he wasnt getting tanks, that's when I started going pure ling/bane/infestor. They've no excuses, they both piled on me yet could clearly see how far along the upgrade was.

That was just the tip of the iceberg though. They bashed and berated me so hard, if I had the vod I could give more examples. I always hate it when casters bash players for nonsensical reasons or blowing relatively insignificant mistakes/imperfections way out of proportion.. but this really took the cake. And I only tuned in for the last 80% of the final game, I wonder how much more I missed before then. I don't know who that other caster was, but gretorp man I am disappointed.


I missed that. Sorry that you got worked over so hard though.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 17 2011 03:59 GMT
#27
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 17 2011 04:04 GMT
#28
Juan got it rough, having to face Thorzain in the Ro16.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 17 2011 04:10 GMT
#29
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We're not broadcasting every match. Certain matches were picked to be cast within each round.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 04:10 GMT
#30
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
November 17 2011 04:16 GMT
#31


ThorZain is a class act, I really hope he qualifies for the finals.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 17 2011 04:26 GMT
#32
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
November 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#33
Aw, Major Major bummer
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 04:32:05
November 17 2011 04:28 GMT
#34
I remember Killer getting pissed off when he lost to Violet in Playhem too. XD
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 04:38 GMT
#35
On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.


There's a loser bracket We will be seeing both play game(s) there
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 17 2011 04:48 GMT
#36
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 17 2011 05:04 GMT
#37
On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?


He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it.

Just a communication issue~
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ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 17 2011 05:07 GMT
#38
On November 17 2011 13:38 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


Wow. Didn't expect Stephano and drewbie to just pass up a chance at $40k like that.


There's a loser bracket We will be seeing both play game(s) there


you could also say that stephano will win every match in the losers bracket :D
at least i hope so :/
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 17 2011 05:08 GMT
#39
On November 17 2011 14:04 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?


He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it.

Just a communication issue~


ahh yea and he missed his flight also back to france when he attended Battle of Berlin well that sucks for him owell thx god we got losers bracket.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
November 17 2011 05:11 GMT
#40
On November 17 2011 14:08 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 14:04 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:48 HappyChris wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
On November 17 2011 12:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Why were the matches of Stephano vs LiveZerg and dKilleR vs drewbie spoiled in the OP?


We only cast a few games from the ro32 + ro16 . We're going to release all the replays after the tournament so everyone can see all the games that were played.

Stephano vs LiveZerg and KiLLeR vs Drewbie were W.O's


What was the reason for Stephano not showing up? unless ofcourse those matches was played last weekend where Stephano was in battle of berlin?


He was at a LAN event I think and couldn't come, although we weren't informed until afterwards. Generally we were relatively accommodating to LAN's and other stuff and always gave people 1 chance to postpone... but when we don't hear anything from the player, we can't do it.

Just a communication issue~


ahh yea and he missed his flight also back to france when he attended Battle of Berlin well that sucks for him owell thx god we got losers bracket.


i think we talk about eswc here... the games are played weeks ago.
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