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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
vOkk
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium576 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5481
On October 23 2011 09:33 WarrickHunt wrote:
what did I just watch i dont even....

ghosts, but thats not fair ...


14 ghost + 16 vikings.. did u really watch the game?
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5482
Pretty sure ghosts cant stop 3 100 waves of banelings one after another. Make 100 lings at a time -> 100 blings at a time send 'em and forget 'em.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Snusdosa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden112 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5483
On October 23 2011 09:33 andycz wrote:
Are people seriously bitching about Terran late game? ROFL, you should actually try playing it sometimes, to see just how terrible a late game Terran is. Nestea just played bad.


Didn't you just see what happened you ignorant retard?

User was banned for this post.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5484
Ghosts or not it's pretty funny if zergs think nestea deserved to win that game or come even close to winning that game.
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5485
On October 23 2011 09:32 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 aebriol wrote:
Meh, what a stupid game.

I don't mind the winner, MvP is the best player, but really ... ghosts are fucking stupid in the extreme late game. Can't do anything against them.


Make infestors to force emp
make ultra/broodlords to force snipes
make hatchery/workers to force nukes

thats how you handle ghosts

ohh ic real smart bro
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5486
On October 23 2011 09:32 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 aebriol wrote:
Meh, what a stupid game.

I don't mind the winner, MvP is the best player, but really ... ghosts are fucking stupid in the extreme late game. Can't do anything against them.


Make infestors to force emp
make ultra/broodlords to force snipes
make hatchery/workers to force nukes

thats how you handle ghosts

How exactly is that "handling" ghosts? Sounds like you're making shit that ghosts counter.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
October 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#5487
On October 23 2011 09:33 TooN wrote:
Hey guys that are so much smarter than pro players......

What do you do vs mass ghost as zerg?

Mass lings.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5488
On October 23 2011 09:32 imareaver3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:31 ski107 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:30 Dissonance23 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:29 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:28 Sc2Null wrote:
8 ghosts > 20+ broodlords


18 ghosts + 14 vikings*

I swear people who fucking post this bullshit aren't actually watching the same game as the rest of us are.



8 ghosts with max energy can kill 20 broodlords easily. They're a joke honestly.


And 30 lings can kill 8 ghosts easily. Go figure.


8 ghosts=64 snipes. 1 snipe=1 ling dead. Go figure.



Yes, please show me someone with enough apm and precision to snipe 30 lings.
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5489
On October 23 2011 09:33 Oboeman wrote:
Nestea could use some coaching on how to play late game.

really poor use of the nydus worm and drops.
really poor multitasking attempting to deal with MVP's drops.

When you are floating 12k minerals, you should be making nydus's constantly, and eventually one will finish.

You should be dropping zerglings in multiple locations constantly, non stop. LIKE MVP WAS DOING WITH MARINES

He could have made 10 overseers, attack-move the middle with 112 banelings, contaminate every barracks and remax with 10 ultras and 120 zerglings.

Maybe you should offer him your coaching, I'm sure he would love it.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Ausfailia
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia123 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5490
On October 23 2011 09:30 Dissonance23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:29 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:28 Sc2Null wrote:
8 ghosts > 20+ broodlords


18 ghosts + 14 vikings*

I swear people who fucking post this bullshit aren't actually watching the same game as the rest of us are.



8 ghosts with max energy can kill 20 broodlords easily. They're a joke honestly.


8 ghosts * 200 energy * 45 damage = 2880 HP damage total.

Broodlord HP = 225.
20 broodlords * 225 HP = 4880 HP.

Mathematically, you're dead wrong.

Practically, you should also be wrong - It was a huge blunder for Nestea to overmake broodlords without making enough infestors - and further not taking good enough care of them.
lollyz
Profile Joined April 2011
218 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5491
Im my opinion the last game is just a showmatch, Mvp and Nestea just share the prize. This remind me Madfrog vs Heaman is Eswc 2004 on Warcraft3.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 02:15:54
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5492
That looked like a showmatch, not a serious game. Sigh.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5493
that was some beautiful tvz.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5494
On October 23 2011 09:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I really think NesTea gave him that game, I'm never the one to say this but NesTea played really really REALLY bad... he never retook his bases and he played retarded strategies...

NesTea is my hero but that was just not him playing seriously. Going ultras versus mass ghost?...

What are you supposed to go vs mass ghost lol?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5495
On October 23 2011 09:31 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:29 hysterial wrote:
Poll: Reccommend this Epic game?

Yes (185)
 
49%

No (180)
 
47%

If you have time. (14)
 
4%

379 total votes

Your vote: Reccommend this Epic game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time.



People voted no>?!


well, i voted yes, but i can see why people would vote no


Yeah also voted yes, but it did feel like they were paying the crowd a bit at the end. Still, it was fun to watch and that's what makes me vote yes. Even if one player didn't play a "perfect game".
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5496
On October 23 2011 09:32 Jagal wrote:
Why do i feel like nestea just gave up that game on purpose, he had it in his pocket then suddenly he starts playing so poorly i think he was just doing this to entertain the crowd and was not really playing his best at ALLL.


Yup, I didnt wanted to say it so directly but thats what I felt as well...
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5497
have a feeling they are going to split hte first and 2nd winners between the two of them for 37,500 each lol
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5498
On October 23 2011 09:33 Darathor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:31 blade55555 wrote:
On October 23 2011 09:30 Brainiac wrote:
Nestea got outclassed so hard. MVP next bonjwa!


Your right 3-3 then losing an epic game 7 = outclassed so hard lol.

What? It was game 5 dude, Nestea won one game.


Counting the 2-0 series before which including the finals would mean they were 3-3 then a game 7 in a since.
When I think of something else, something will go here
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 00:35:14
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5499
People claiming this final game was 'epic' 'perfect' 'legendary'. I respectfully disagree. Nestea played that out pretty badly. Anyone who has played Zerg late game ZvT knows that situation and how tough it is but I would have expected a much better plan late game from the 'god of zerg' nestea. Series was overall just lackluster. Terrible maps, and most of the games ended from 2 base timing pushes or 1 base all ins. Le sigh. Grats to MVP though.
Flash 하나님
Tosho
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia498 Posts
October 23 2011 00:34 GMT
#5500
Really impressive game, congrats MVP.
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