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On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.
What did you expect? some of the worst qualities of nerds are entitlement, lack of social skills and narcissism.l
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The guy choosing the televised matches sure loves ZvZ, thats for sure...
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if they cast another ZvZ over Select vs Sen... L O L
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On October 22 2011 10:46 Joe12 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:45 dgdsg wrote:On October 22 2011 10:44 thepantysoaker wrote:
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs? NaNi also took a game off him. Impressive, considering they didnt play....
Naniwa took a game off Nestea though, so i suppose that's what he meant.
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So the GSL players flew here to play the finals at Blizzcon?
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On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.
I will field this one. All of the players at this tournament are in a lot of tournaments with the exception of a few no name players no one really cares about. Mvp and nestea have long proven track records and hardly ever show up in any foreign tournaments so naturally everyone wants to see how they do. So people are mad when the 2 best or most hyped players that we rarely see do not show up at all in any streamed games. That is why I think its stupid but as always people will argue everything like elvis is still alive and this or that.
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On October 22 2011 10:47 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:45 Shewklad wrote:
This is IMO, by far the worst event this year, sooo much downtime and just zvz's being broadcasted all the time.. Not surprising. Blizzard isn't an event-holding organization. If their event kind of sucks, it doesn't matter, they don't need you to tune in again. By next blizzcon everyone will have forgotten, for the most part, how bad it was due to a couple good games by MVP/Nestea, and the GSL Finals right after it.
hahaha, so true. Last Blizzcon was similar to this, last matches rolled around. people were happy and forgot all about it.
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On October 22 2011 10:46 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 22 2011 10:38 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 10:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 22 2011 10:22 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 10:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Did Killer really believe he was that far behind? 2 base muta is in general a terrible strategy in ZvZ. IdrA thinks otherwise Fairly sure he would agree with me. Well ive seen him go 2 base muta 5-10 times quite recently, he says that hydralisks with their low speed dont really counter mutas (you give up map control completely) and infestors are worthless vs split mutas, etc, the only way to effectively counter mutas is to have more mutas than him Or make a simple roach/hydra timing push and smash your enemy before he can build a sufficient muta ball. The only way a 2 base muta rush works is 1. when your opponent is playing defensively 2. you know the game is going to be dragged out 3. you're using the muta's map control as a stepping stone to something else Not really the case, ling bling destroys hydras really fast and attacking cross-map into spine crawlers is difficult for zerg. It is a flimsy style, but ive seen it work with suprising frequency
Well the only counter to muta play is to go pure hydra so I can see...
no.
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On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.
1. Because those were the games we were expecting to see.
2. Those are the players who generate the most excitement.
3. They are in the WINNER's Bracket and normally the winners are shown priority.
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adjudant look nice in costume contest
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Lol costume show is awesome
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On October 22 2011 10:44 thepantysoaker wrote:
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs?
Probably a combination of RSI and jet lag
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On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.
why would you invite some of the best players in the world to a 50000$ event and then show the lower skilled players in the losers bracket of which all zerg players, while the winners bracket continues off stage with the higher quality players and much more viewer potential
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On October 22 2011 10:47 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough. What did you expect? some of the worst qualities of nerds are entitlement, lack of social skills and narcissism.l
Hey look i post on both TL and Reddit, i guess that makes me a 12 year old anti social narcissist/enlighten community contributing quality poster.
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wtf is that a sheep ? is it like bm or something ?
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This event was rather disappointing thus far but when MVP/NesTea and GSL finals happen. All will be forgetten!
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On October 22 2011 10:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:46 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 10:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 22 2011 10:38 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 10:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 22 2011 10:22 Cyro wrote:On October 22 2011 10:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Did Killer really believe he was that far behind? 2 base muta is in general a terrible strategy in ZvZ. IdrA thinks otherwise Fairly sure he would agree with me. Well ive seen him go 2 base muta 5-10 times quite recently, he says that hydralisks with their low speed dont really counter mutas (you give up map control completely) and infestors are worthless vs split mutas, etc, the only way to effectively counter mutas is to have more mutas than him Or make a simple roach/hydra timing push and smash your enemy before he can build a sufficient muta ball. The only way a 2 base muta rush works is 1. when your opponent is playing defensively 2. you know the game is going to be dragged out 3. you're using the muta's map control as a stepping stone to something else Not really the case, ling bling destroys hydras really fast and attacking cross-map into spine crawlers is difficult for zerg. It is a flimsy style, but ive seen it work with suprising frequency Well the only counter to muta play is to go pure hydra so I can see... no.
Cost for cost, hydras are far more vunerable to banelings than marines are.
They do horribly vs speedlings too, which happen to have around double their movement speed.
I dont want to argue about ZvZ styles, but i know for a fact a lot of GM zergs have been using mutas recently with some success, IdrA included on his stream
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On October 22 2011 10:47 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."
I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough. What did you expect? some of the worst qualities of nerds are entitlement, lack of social skills and narcissism.l
That is just like your opinion man.
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MMA might have a chance. MVP has played three series and had to play in this shitty schedule all day.
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