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dgdsg
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany91 Posts
October 22 2011 01:43 GMT
#4361
Yay! 5th ZvZ in a row :D
Oats123
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia56 Posts
October 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#4362
I cant say that I'm enjoying Blizzcon. A lot of downtime, not able to see the games I want. There where what 3 games casted since this crap began? all zvz's......
thepantysoaker
Profile Joined June 2011
United States54 Posts
October 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#4363
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs?
no off position on the genius switch
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
October 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#4364
This type of scheduling occurs all the time in major sports. Don't you guys remember when ABC decided to air a round of 16 game from the NIT instead of an Elite Match in the NCAA tournament? People had seen North Carolina play so many times that year. People really wanted to see how Central Western Michigan State Tech did in the NIT.

I know I wouldn't want to see something like the World Cup semi-finals if Messi was there and playing his first game ever in Korea. I'd rather watch Swansea City take on Wolverhampton. Always good to give the little guys a chance to shine.

end sarcasm...

Vods and replays exist so we can see these lower bracket games at a later time. The winner's bracket is the winner's bracket. Those should get priority.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#4365
On October 22 2011 10:42 talismania wrote:
they're going to show both nani - dimaga/toodming and sen -select right?


From the schedule i think the next match is the last Blizzcon match of the day. Then we go to GSL.

StarCraft II Match 6RTS Stage Starts in 45m
World of Warcraft Round 7WoW Stage Starts in 45m
StarCraft II GSL FinalsRTS Stage Starts in 2h, 15m
World of Warcraft Live RaidMain Stage Starts in 15h, 15m
Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4366
This is IMO, by far the worst event this year, sooo much downtime and just zvz's being broadcasted all the time..
Bomber || Thorzain || Startale >< No gods, no masters.
Budzlight
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States578 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4367
God i hope naniwa wins the whole thing. I would cry if he did. And when did he lose all the weight.
I was the 5% that voted for thorzain in the TSL for round 1
dgdsg
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany91 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4368
On October 22 2011 10:44 thepantysoaker wrote:
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs?


NaNi also took a game off him.
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4369
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."

I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirmonkeh Zerg Live Casts and Commentary!
Villi
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway49 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4370
Protip: If you ever qualify to blizzcon make sure you throw your first round game for maximum exposure.
Pew Pew
Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
October 22 2011 01:45 GMT
#4371
I dont get why they are streaming toodming vs dimaga.. wow..given that the invitational has a better talent pool and matches.. i rather watch DRG slug it out with fans on the complexity stream!
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4372
On October 22 2011 10:44 Oats123 wrote:
I cant say that I'm enjoying Blizzcon. A lot of downtime, not able to see the games I want. There where what 3 games casted since this crap began? all zvz's......


They showed a PvT(Nani v Major) and a TvZ(Select vs Dimaga I think).

I guess they had already decided which matches to show and we got the bad luck of having 10 Zergs in the tourney lol.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
October 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4373
On October 22 2011 10:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 10:38 Cyro wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:22 Cyro wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Did Killer really believe he was that far behind? 2 base muta is in general a terrible strategy in ZvZ.



IdrA thinks otherwise


Fairly sure he would agree with me.



Well ive seen him go 2 base muta 5-10 times quite recently, he says that hydralisks with their low speed dont really counter mutas (you give up map control completely) and infestors are worthless vs split mutas, etc, the only way to effectively counter mutas is to have more mutas than him


Or make a simple roach/hydra timing push and smash your enemy before he can build a sufficient muta ball.

The only way a 2 base muta rush works is

1. when your opponent is playing defensively
2. you know the game is going to be dragged out
3. you're using the muta's map control as a stepping stone to something else



Not really the case, ling bling destroys hydras really fast and attacking cross-map into spine crawlers is difficult for zerg.


It is a flimsy style, but ive seen it work with suprising frequency
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
October 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4374
So will they broadcast the GSL fianl on the blizzard stream or will it be on the gom stream?
*hoping for the blizzard stream*
"!@€#" - as some guy said
Joe12
Profile Joined March 2010
183 Posts
October 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4375
On October 22 2011 10:45 dgdsg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 10:44 thepantysoaker wrote:
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs?


NaNi also took a game off him.


Impressive, considering they didnt play....
j0ker
Profile Joined August 2011
275 Posts
October 22 2011 01:46 GMT
#4376
On October 22 2011 10:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 10:38 Cyro wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:22 Cyro wrote:
On October 22 2011 10:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Did Killer really believe he was that far behind? 2 base muta is in general a terrible strategy in ZvZ.



IdrA thinks otherwise


Fairly sure he would agree with me.



Well ive seen him go 2 base muta 5-10 times quite recently, he says that hydralisks with their low speed dont really counter mutas (you give up map control completely) and infestors are worthless vs split mutas, etc, the only way to effectively counter mutas is to have more mutas than him


Or make a simple roach/hydra timing push and smash your enemy before he can build a sufficient muta ball.


its not nearly as simple as that. mutas come faster than hydras, especially if the other zerg invested a lot into roaches. mutas hitting the field result in an almost certain supply block for the other zerg, and a pretty heavy one at that. spores have to frantically be placed and the entire map belongs to the muta player. he can then drone and expand while harassing and tech to whatever composition he likes. the only surefire way to take back control from a player that went muta is to go muta in response with a better economy. hydras are eventually the answer but you cant just walk across the map and kill him in response to mutas, especially considering the speed of hydras.
Steel_Eagle
Profile Joined September 2011
United States37 Posts
October 22 2011 01:47 GMT
#4377
By looking at the schedule: Will the GSL Final be streamed via the Blizzcon Stream?
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
October 22 2011 01:47 GMT
#4378
On October 22 2011 10:45 Shewklad wrote:
This is IMO, by far the worst event this year, sooo much downtime and just zvz's being broadcasted all the time..

Not surprising. Blizzard isn't an event-holding organization. If their event kind of sucks, it doesn't matter, they don't need you to tune in again. By next blizzcon everyone will have forgotten, for the most part, how bad it was due to a couple good games by MVP/Nestea, and the GSL Finals right after it.

Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
October 22 2011 01:47 GMT
#4379
On October 22 2011 10:45 MonkSEA wrote:
I'm laughing on Reddit that everyone is bitching about not seeing MVP/NesTea play. I didn't know Blizzard owed people footage of these two playing. It's disappointing, I can agree with that but everyone is acting like they deserve to see it, even when half their post contains "I'm so glad I didn't pay $40 for this shit."

I'm glad most of that is gone from TL with all the 12-14 year olds that went to bed. Why can't people just appreciate the play they get to see in front of them rather then cry about not seeing two other players play, which they will indubitably see soon enough.


because there was so much down time and like 3 games which were all ZvZ's? And once they just left no games on even though Nestea v Naniwa didn't start yet...
IMNestea's biggest fan.
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
October 22 2011 01:47 GMT
#4380
On October 22 2011 10:45 dgdsg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 10:44 thepantysoaker wrote:
how did select take a game off of MVP ffs?


NaNi also took a game off him.


Toodming took one too..
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