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minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
October 20 2011 09:46 GMT
#261
On October 20 2011 18:44 Silidons wrote:
i feel like taeja's macro isn't that great..3 bases and he's barely reinforcing his marines wtf?

did you see the supply at all, the baneling burst is what cost lucky the game, too much gas spent and delayed tech vs a cc first terran.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#262
On October 20 2011 18:46 MCMXVI wrote:
"even if he's lucky..."

god damn it moletrap... stop with the bad jokes.. nobody laughs at them


The comments about his bad jokes make me laugh though.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#263
On October 20 2011 18:45 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:44 Caesarion wrote:
On October 20 2011 18:43 positron. wrote:
This is the build that MKP used and lost.


Do you mean Bomber? MKP's marines were pretty baller vs IdrA.


I think it was MKP. Forgot who the Z was but not Idra.

Bomber definitely had a game v Idra where he went mass marine and lost (and STC did a similar thing).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#264
On October 20 2011 18:45 Pandemona wrote:
God dammit please dont watch that game if you didn't that was awful T.T

I thought it was nice. Taeja pretty much totally schooled Lucky and showed some neat decision making and micro.
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OlorinTheWise
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#265
On October 20 2011 18:43 KiNGxXx wrote:
OMG sick micro!

But why didn't he kill the hatch?

He saw the huge cluster of Overlords in front of the natural and decided that supply blocking him for the next year would be better than killing off his mining when he couldn't produce units anyways. >.>
"Evil, be thou my good."
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#266
On October 20 2011 18:46 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:45 Jehct wrote:
On October 20 2011 18:44 pdd wrote:
I didn't watch Lucky's IPL games, but how did he beat MMA, Ryung and Boxer again?

Roach ling attacks against hellion openers (like Idra v Thorzain g1, except every fucking game).

Oh... that's kinda lame.. you would've thought the Slayers guys would have learnt something though.

I went into rage mode when MMA went down 0-2 to that roach ling.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 20 2011 09:47 GMT
#267
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 20 2011 09:48 GMT
#268
On October 20 2011 18:46 Probe1 wrote:
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On Oct 20 2011 05:44 pdd wrote:
I didn't watch Lucky's IPL games, but how did he beat MMA, Ryung and Boxer again?

Overall he played much better but he also had killer burrowed baneling bombs.

That game- Lucky went for an early end and failed. End of story. Don't listen to "level of play" crap. He tried to do an early bust and it failed. The game ended there despite the replay ending several minutes later.

Lucky DID have burrow, though. I don't know whether he didnt use it or whether Taeja just scanned well.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
October 20 2011 09:49 GMT
#269
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

Great point - absolutely incomprehensible that he went for such a cheesy strat on a map zergs like.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 20 2011 09:49 GMT
#270
On October 20 2011 18:44 Silidons wrote:
i feel like taeja's macro isn't that great..3 bases and he's barely reinforcing his marines wtf?

Erm.... he put his 3rd base up when he pushed out the 3rd time (with tanks). Did you even see his supply suddenly shoot up by 20-30 all of a sudden, even before his attack came? That almost never happens in a TvZ, where the Terran has a supply lead.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
October 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#271
On October 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
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On October 20 2011 18:45 Pandemona wrote:
God dammit please dont watch that game if you didn't that was awful T.T

I thought it was nice. Taeja pretty much totally schooled Lucky and showed some neat decision making and micro.


He held a bane bust...and decided to run into the zerg with un stimmed marines about 3 minutes after so the zerg would probably still be on Ling Bane...and he didnt have stim...ended up losing all his marines to the banelings with no micro......Then he though ah best get some Seige tanks upgrade and take a 3rd..which is how he won the game, but Lucky still had no clue what to do after his failed bane bust attempt and Taeja just beat him with Marine Seige....I think gold terrans beat zergs like that ".
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#272
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

His execution was totally off, if he had engaged better he could have killed the bunker and taken out enough marines to do serious damage with a second wave. Ling baneling is something pure marine should never come out ahead against.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
October 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#273
On October 20 2011 18:44 Silidons wrote:
i feel like taeja's macro isn't that great..3 bases and he's barely reinforcing his marines wtf?

u kidding me? did you ever watch him play? his macro is sick...stop talking about people you obviously know nothing about
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 20 2011 09:50 GMT
#274
On October 20 2011 18:49 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

Great point - absolutely incomprehensible that he went for such a cheesy strat on a map zergs like.

It's more than likely a studied reaction to Taeja's heavy marine/late tank play.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
October 20 2011 09:51 GMT
#275
On October 20 2011 18:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

His execution was totally off, if he had engaged better he could have killed the bunker and taken out enough marines to do serious damage with a second wave. Ling baneling is something pure marine should never come out ahead against.


it always comes out ahead in a situation like that, cc first + 12 banelings needed to bust down the rax equals dead zerg
Gelenn
Profile Joined April 2011
United States87 Posts
October 20 2011 09:51 GMT
#276
On October 20 2011 18:46 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On Oct 20 2011 05:44 pdd wrote:
I didn't watch Lucky's IPL games, but how did he beat MMA, Ryung and Boxer again?

Overall he played much better but he also had killer burrowed baneling bombs.

That game- Lucky went for an early end and failed. End of story. Don't listen to "level of play" crap. He tried to do an early bust and it failed. The game ended there despite the replay ending several minutes later.


This. Game was over after the failed bust.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 09:52:58
October 20 2011 09:51 GMT
#277
On October 20 2011 18:46 minhbq299 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:44 Silidons wrote:
i feel like taeja's macro isn't that great..3 bases and he's barely reinforcing his marines wtf?

did you see the supply at all, the baneling burst is what cost lucky the game, too much gas spent and delayed tech vs a cc first terran.

Lucky was still in the game after he held off the unstimmed marine push. He didn't research baneling speed quick enough and that cost him the game. He was fully saturated in both bases, and he droned up like crazy after that. He was still in it.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 20 2011 09:52 GMT
#278
On October 20 2011 18:50 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

His execution was totally off, if he had engaged better he could have killed the bunker and taken out enough marines to do serious damage with a second wave. Ling baneling is something pure marine should never come out ahead against.

There's no way. Taeja still had a 2nd bunker if you didn't see, still had like 20 marines left over, and going in with 4 or so banelings after he takes out one of the bunkers and some lings won't be enough. When you have that many marines available after the wall goes down with 2 bunkers your reinforcements aren't gonna do jack and he's just gonna rewall if there's a lull in his attack.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 20 2011 09:52 GMT
#279
On October 20 2011 18:51 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:50 Jehct wrote:
On October 20 2011 18:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
if lucky's plan is to try and baneling bust terrans on zerg favored maps then he's in for a rough time

His execution was totally off, if he had engaged better he could have killed the bunker and taken out enough marines to do serious damage with a second wave. Ling baneling is something pure marine should never come out ahead against.


it always comes out ahead in a situation like that, cc first + 12 banelings needed to bust down the rax equals dead zerg

No. If he kills the bunker (which he had the banes to do) as well as the 3 rax then the terrans ability to reinforce is crushed (and mass ling beats mass marine in cost, depending on upgrades).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 20 2011 09:53 GMT
#280
On October 20 2011 18:50 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On October 20 2011 18:45 Pandemona wrote:
God dammit please dont watch that game if you didn't that was awful T.T

I thought it was nice. Taeja pretty much totally schooled Lucky and showed some neat decision making and micro.


He held a bane bust...and decided to run into the zerg with un stimmed marines about 3 minutes after so the zerg would probably still be on Ling Bane...and he didnt have stim...ended up losing all his marines to the banelings with no micro......Then he though ah best get some Seige tanks upgrade and take a 3rd..which is how he won the game, but Lucky still had no clue what to do after his failed bane bust attempt and Taeja just beat him with Marine Seige....I think gold terrans beat zergs like that ".

He pushed out with those marines to stop the only possible way Lucky could get back into the game - over-droning. It wasn't a mistake at all, it was part of why he had such an easy time winning the game.

Besides, he was already getting that third base, and he would have won without the tanks anyway.
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