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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 16 2011 15:21 GMT
#41
IEM NY 1-2-3: Z - Z - Z
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 16 2011 15:21 GMT
#42
Hey get a picture of the TL staff this time! ^^
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 16 2011 15:22 GMT
#43
On October 17 2011 00:21 Probe1 wrote:
Hey get a picture of the TL staff this time! ^^


Not unless they update the calendar >
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 16 2011 15:26 GMT
#44
On October 17 2011 00:14 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 23:56 Hondelul wrote:
So sad for IEM and ESL that this have to be the same day as MLG. It don´t just take direct viewers but also gives them a weaker lineup and attracts less people that way too.

(Z)XlorD gave a very harsh interview to Fragster here (german) where he looks very pessimistic in ESL future regarding SC2 and the level of play at IEM NY.
Quotes:
Die seit Donnerstag laufende Intel Extreme Masters Global Challenge in New York sei, so der Zerg-Spieler, bisher das "schlechteste Turnier seit Langem."

The since Thursday running IEM in NY is, so the Zerg player, the till now "worst tournament for a long time"

"Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn die ESL wegen SC2 bald komplett untergeht."
"I won´t be suprised if the ESL perishes completely due to SC2"

Well, it sure isn´t that bad, but I think it´s hard for ESL to expand outside of Europe, especially USA since they already have experienced and big rivals that are established.


Didn´t both IEM (the one in China) and Blizzcon europe invitational did really well?

I don´t think ESL will do badly.I actually don´t know why IEM NY is getting so less viewers than MLG, its not like it was all bad players coming


This event just really had poor timing. No one is to blame here though.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#45
On October 17 2011 00:26 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 00:14 windsupernova wrote:
On October 16 2011 23:56 Hondelul wrote:
So sad for IEM and ESL that this have to be the same day as MLG. It don´t just take direct viewers but also gives them a weaker lineup and attracts less people that way too.

(Z)XlorD gave a very harsh interview to Fragster here (german) where he looks very pessimistic in ESL future regarding SC2 and the level of play at IEM NY.
Quotes:
Die seit Donnerstag laufende Intel Extreme Masters Global Challenge in New York sei, so der Zerg-Spieler, bisher das "schlechteste Turnier seit Langem."

The since Thursday running IEM in NY is, so the Zerg player, the till now "worst tournament for a long time"

"Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn die ESL wegen SC2 bald komplett untergeht."
"I won´t be suprised if the ESL perishes completely due to SC2"

Well, it sure isn´t that bad, but I think it´s hard for ESL to expand outside of Europe, especially USA since they already have experienced and big rivals that are established.


Didn´t both IEM (the one in China) and Blizzcon europe invitational did really well?

I don´t think ESL will do badly.I actually don´t know why IEM NY is getting so less viewers than MLG, its not like it was all bad players coming


This event just really had poor timing. No one is to blame here though.

Yeah, but I don't know why the community somehow prefers MLG. I mean MLG its not bad, but of all tournaments MLG gets a lot of hype when compared to other tourneys
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 15:41:26
October 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#46
Yeah, i have the same feeling, MLG is great and all, but it gets more hype than it deserves, maybe its the number of players and games...but common, up to Orlando they even didnt stream majority of games. Just strange.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 15:43:08
October 16 2011 15:42 GMT
#47
On October 17 2011 00:14 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 23:56 Hondelul wrote:
So sad for IEM and ESL that this have to be the same day as MLG. It don´t just take direct viewers but also gives them a weaker lineup and attracts less people that way too.

(Z)XlorD gave a very harsh interview to Fragster here (german) where he looks very pessimistic in ESL future regarding SC2 and the level of play at IEM NY.
Quotes:
Die seit Donnerstag laufende Intel Extreme Masters Global Challenge in New York sei, so der Zerg-Spieler, bisher das "schlechteste Turnier seit Langem."

The since Thursday running IEM in NY is, so the Zerg player, the till now "worst tournament for a long time"

"Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn die ESL wegen SC2 bald komplett untergeht."
"I won´t be suprised if the ESL perishes completely due to SC2"

Well, it sure isn´t that bad, but I think it´s hard for ESL to expand outside of Europe, especially USA since they already have experienced and big rivals that are established.


Didn´t both IEM (the one in China) and Blizzcon europe invitational did really well?

I don´t think ESL will do badly.I actually don´t know why IEM NY is getting so less viewers than MLG, its not like it was all bad players coming

Blizzcon Invitational was really amazing and China was good as well. But Blizzcon was advertised by Blizzard themself and at China ESL made great coverage here at TL. They made all LR threads, updated, put it in calender...
The players in NY are fine for me, but I just don´t get hyped, don´t know why. It´s not the 4 streams at MLG, I take Rotterdam and MrBitter over most casters at MLG and most matches get casted without I have to swap streams. I like that better.

Like I said, I think Xlord is to pessimistic, but if it happens more often that they have so few viewers... Everything for SC2 ofc, LoL seem to run great.
But yes, perhaps it´s just a bad weekend, with DRG, TOP, Mana, Strelok, elfi... I think the level is good enough, but MLG lineup this weekend just can´t get topped.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
October 16 2011 15:50 GMT
#48
Well i dont think they have to worry about viewrship, Lol stream had like 70k. I wonder how mach it will have (or already has) during the finals.
Pathetic Greta hater.
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
October 16 2011 15:54 GMT
#49
IEM SC2 events always seem to draw less than the rest (not just this weekend). Never understood why because they have good production and well run live events.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 15:57:09
October 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#50
On October 17 2011 00:54 PrimeTimey wrote:
IEM SC2 events always seem to draw less than the rest (not just this weekend). Never understood why because they have good production and well run live events.

Worse advertisement is my guess.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 16 2011 16:03 GMT
#51
On October 17 2011 00:56 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 00:54 PrimeTimey wrote:
IEM SC2 events always seem to draw less than the rest (not just this weekend). Never understood why because they have good production and well run live events.

Worse advertisement is my guess.


This is the main reason. ESL just isn't a very well-run organization; they don't have a good sense of how to hype their events, and they exist in their own little bubble isolated from every other eSports organization. When you look at all the other tournaments, they profit through partnership and working with the community.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 16 2011 16:07 GMT
#52
On October 17 2011 01:03 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 00:56 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 17 2011 00:54 PrimeTimey wrote:
IEM SC2 events always seem to draw less than the rest (not just this weekend). Never understood why because they have good production and well run live events.

Worse advertisement is my guess.


This is the main reason. ESL just isn't a very well-run organization; they don't have a good sense of how to hype their events, and they exist in their own little bubble isolated from every other eSports organization. When you look at all the other tournaments, they profit through partnership and working with the community.


hmmm yeah now that you mention it. Thats might be the reason. Bad to see their Sc2 events not get many viewers, they have tons of quality games
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 16 2011 16:32 GMT
#53
Stream is up again!
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
October 16 2011 16:32 GMT
#54
Oh Carmac. We love him.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
October 16 2011 16:42 GMT
#55
(Z)FruitDealer vs (Z)DongRaeGu starting
First game on Metalopolis, close air positions.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 16 2011 16:44 GMT
#56
Wow FD has been looking so nice this event.

Damn
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 16:50:18
October 16 2011 16:49 GMT
#57
FD owning it up? daaaaamn

EDIT: first time i've seen FD sober
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#58
Come on DRG. Don't let FD win this. ;/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#59
On October 17 2011 01:42 Noam wrote:
(Z)FruitDealer vs (Z)DongRaeGu starting
First game on Metalopolis, close air positions.

Wow never would have known if I didn't read this thread, kept waiting for the stream to come up on the side bar.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 16 2011 16:51 GMT
#60
FD ♥
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