EPTMLG Orlando Red Day 2 Live Report Thread - Page 66
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:33 ShiaoPi wrote: just adding to the top foreigner debate, take a look at IEM NY.... + Show Spoiler + Gatored 3-0'ed TOP I mean wtf, unexpected :O He 2-1 DRG too. Sase PvP is so fun to watch. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:21 ownyaah wrote: haha, how many times have u seen nerchio win against a good player, one that is considered top? at theyre best, idra or stephano is 1st and 2nd, sen or ret is 3rd. FYI Untill recently Stephano-hype was nothing compared to Nerchio-hype, and neither was based on air. When Nerchio has his LAN-breakout you'll see. | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:35 Talin wrote: This is how every PvP should look like post patch (opening-wise). PvPs yesterday were painful to watch, this brings the matchup's reputation back somewhat. sases build is weak to a couple things but he just knows hasu's style. Sases build isn't very good vs 3gate pressure or a really good 4gate blink timing. But its good vs robo openings for sure which is basically all hasu does. So don't read too much into it, its a good build but it can't work every game. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Jura vs alterzza In the left position is  EvinWhile in the right is AlterBoth players are going baneling tech with ling speed and are on one base 5:00 mark at this point | ||
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
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tetracycloide
295 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:34 cpneger wrote: how can you stand listening to jp and wheat cast? Laughter helps. | ||
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claash
Poland472 Posts
same with hasu-elfi (2-3) or all other socke games.i knew he will lose 2 games in a row;) and i won 10 euros from my friend  but ye sase didnt do anything specially.he got the korean builds and strats and you see that he practices his ass off | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:36 Drazerk wrote: jump in LR! Jura vs alterzza In the left position is EvinWhile in the right is AlterBoth players are going baneling tech with ling speed and are on one base 5:00 mark at this point 6:00 Banelings morphing in for alterzza looking to be the aggressor | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:35 Talin wrote: This is how every PvP should look like post patch (opening-wise). PvPs yesterday were painful to watch, this brings the matchup's reputation back somewhat. He cant open like that unless the opponent removes the threat of 4gate through a combination of double gas, extra probes, not enough saved chrono, delayed gateways, etc etc. Doesnt have to be all of them, but there is no way you can play as SaSe did without very precice scouting info, which makes it so powerful | ||
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r0x0r
Germany293 Posts
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:37 Cyro wrote: He cant open like that unless the opponent removes the threat of 4gate through a combination of double gas, extra probes, not enough saved chrono, delayed gateways, etc etc. Doesnt have to be all of them, but there is no way you can play as SaSe did without very precice scouting info, which makes it so powerful Yeah, that hallucinated phoenix definitely did his job. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:37 Drazerk wrote: 6:00 Banelings morphing in for alterzza looking to be the aggressor 6:40 Queen has been lowered to very low hp after the banelings hit only 2 drones go down and now Evin is going on the offensive | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:32 tree.hugger wrote: See my response above, results are cute and all, but I think you should be able to determine whether one player is better than the other based on actually watching them play, as opposed to looking at numbers in TLPD. Obviously if a player fails to get results after a while, then it seems like they're doing something wrong, but ideally my thoughts on those players will be proven right in the future. You say you don't have enough information on Stephano, Nerchio, Ret but that's because you haven't been trying to get it. It's all out there. I think IdrA's mindset has clearly improved, and that's great because that was really holding him back. His map vision and multitask haven't faltered so much from his BW days, and his macro and unit composition decisions seem to also have improved, which is good because those were two other big issues he had. What keeps IdrA from being at the very top, in my opinion, is that he doesn't scout enough, relies on incomplete reads of his opponents, and I still question some of his decision making. He's obviously extremely good though. Sen is fantastic, I just haven't seen enough of him lately, and he's lost a bit in the TeSL, which is weird. But he could very well get right back to the top, it's hard to tell. I dont know if you missed the post i put about 4 posts above yours (i know these threads are crazy to hold conversation. But i stated pretty much the same thing. No zerg has multiple recent results to show they are above the others. Sen has gone of the market with the TeSF for now, and Idra/Stephano/Ret all seemed to make a recent splash. Nothign past that though. I hope they all start doing well. Yes we could look at the player skill and use our knowledge to make good results. But then Idra/Ret are almost always going to be on that list, because if they are in top form and playing at a level of their old bw skill, they will dominate. But we have to take consistency into play. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:37 vdale wrote: poor hasu, he never has any luck with his build orders in PvP ... That wasnt about luck, he opened double gas with no chrono saved three games in a row and got "countered" all 3 games, SaSe lost the first game due to trying a double expand and then getting out of position with part of his army but overall he was always going to win with that style vs 2 gas chronod probes from 1 base | ||
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claash
Poland472 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:38 Shika wrote: SaSe vs Jinro will be SICK! Can't wait for that match. the swede gotta mention the swedes in the forums of course | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote: 6:40 Queen has been lowered to very low hp after the banelings hit only 2 drones go down and now Evin is going on the offensive 8:00 Alter going into roach tech while fending off the zerglings trying to get up his ramp | ||
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