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Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
October 15 2011 16:26 GMT
#1221
On October 16 2011 01:26 Valikyr wrote:
SaSe: Making PvP interesting since today


lol more like since the last patch
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1222
cheering for Hasu but i fell like korean practice is paying off right now O_o
DeMusliM !!!
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1223
Oh the hilarity that always comes from a base trade
@followMVT
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1224
cmon sase, take the last game now please
Im better than Stefan
mokuhazushi
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden46 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1225
I love seeing people who go DT's lose.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1226
The timings of tht build were obviously quite practiced. It looked really refined and i'd imagine it's good against a lot of builds.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1227
On October 16 2011 01:27 qbs wrote:
cheering for Hasu but i fell like korean practice is paying off right now O_o


dt rush vs robo expand, its not rocket science bro
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
October 15 2011 16:27 GMT
#1228
Being a big sase and hero fan can be hard sometimes.

Some games they just look brilliant with all these fancy moves and other times they try to be too fancy and lose.

Perfect examples here- game 1 sase trying to be really fancy taking two gold bases and just loses by not having any units, and game 2 has a really good warp prism sentry drop and crushes him.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1229
On October 16 2011 01:27 Nolot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:27 qbs wrote:
cheering for Hasu but i fell like korean practice is paying off right now O_o


dt rush vs robo expand, its not rocket science bro

Rofl, I lol'd. Dt Rush vs Robo expand... hmmm, I wonder who's going to win this.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 16:28:16
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1230
On October 16 2011 01:26 ohampatu wrote:
I disagree completely on Stephano/Ret/Nerchio... Im not for sure how you could even name them as top.


Stephano has only ipl 3. Unless he gets more there's just not enough information to put him as a top player.

Ret has the ability to be in that list, but doesn't have the results at all recently, even stephano has more results than ret. (just because he is doing good in pool play really doesn't mean anything).

Nerchio doesn't have LAN results. Enough Said.


Sen and Idra are the onlly zergs i think we can call 'top' right now, with ret narrowing out the 3 id say. Sen is really the only foreigner zerg who deserves to be top right now, all other foreigner zergs are only just now starting to show good promise again (ret recently increasing, idra recently increasing, stephano making a breakthrough).


Instead of talking about top foreigner zerg, since no zerg has really emmerged as the top, i wish we would just all put our hopes on idra/sen/ret/dimaga/stephano and cheer for all instead of comparing so much. None of them are clear winners. At this point in time it doesn't matter who comes out, as long as one or two of them do.


and what has sen done in a loooooooooong time?
your post is worthless.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1231
These players with god awful strategic sense........
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1232
Game Three on shattered temple

In the south position is Sase

While in the north is Hasuobs
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1233
God just turtle inori
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1234
I just got back from lunch and have to mention a huge LOL at the people who thought stephano would trash theSTC.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
October 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#1235
On October 16 2011 01:26 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:25 PhyreHazard wrote:
Now this is worthy of being called special tactics


Its not special when he does it every game on stream


Well, it's not secret. It's still special.

Had an analogy to give with respect to Jennifer Love Hewitt's breasts, but I aroused myself
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 16:29:47
October 15 2011 16:29 GMT
#1236
On October 16 2011 01:26 ohampatu wrote:
I disagree completely on Stephano/Ret/Nerchio... Im not for sure how you could even name them as top.


Stephano has only ipl 3. Unless he gets more there's just not enough information to put him as a top player.

Ret has the ability to be in that list, but doesn't have the results at all recently, even stephano has more results than ret. (just because he is doing good in pool play really doesn't mean anything).

Nerchio doesn't have LAN results. Enough Said.


Sen and Idra are the onlly zergs i think we can call 'top' right now, with ret narrowing out the 3 id say. Sen is really the only foreigner zerg who deserves to be top right now, all other foreigner zergs are only just now starting to show good promise again (ret recently increasing, idra recently increasing, stephano making a breakthrough).


Instead of talking about top foreigner zerg, since no zerg has really emmerged as the top, i wish we would just all put our hopes on idra/sen/ret/dimaga/stephano and cheer for all instead of comparing so much. None of them are clear winners. At this point in time it doesn't matter who comes out, as long as one or two of them do.


So you disagree completely yet you name Idra a person who for the last 3/4 months has been playing horribly and only recently shown any kind of good play? That just seems like bias? Also when last did we see Sen play a top level match or tournament?
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 16:31:11
October 15 2011 16:29 GMT
#1237
On October 16 2011 01:16 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2 things,

1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg.

Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent.


There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro.

You're right on some things, but the fact that you list DIMAGA as having the total package, while dismissing Stephano's micro makes me think you know much less about these players than you're pretending to. DIMAGA's unit control, especially with a large army is appallingly bad, it's far and away his biggest weakness. Stephano's micro is actually quite good.

Best three foreign zergs are Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret in some order, and then IdrA, Sen, Sheth, and DIMAGA are right behind, and IdrA may yet have recovered enough to be counted among the top three. But I think the top three is pretty hard to dispute if you watch the individual play.


I agree with that I guess. You're correct in that I don't watch enough foreign Zergs, and the ones I listed have always shown some consistently stable or strong play (or just a bit more mainstream play in General). I absolutely did not consider Ret or Nerchio, and while I havn''t seen so much Nerchio (though I know he has been posting results), I kind of dropped the ball on Ret.

Also, while I wasn't downplaying Stephano's micro, I wasn't highlighting it much either, as I feel it gets a bit weaker as the games get more mechanically intense, from the games I've seen anyways. If I had to put someone for zergs to par up to micro=mechanics wise, it would probably be Leenock after the games he played with Ganzi. I just feel that what makes Stephano really strong are his decisions and army compositions (which he uses with good micro earlier in the games I've seen), and I think that's a mimic-able trait for players who have better mechanics if they choose.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
October 15 2011 16:29 GMT
#1238
sounds stupid but sase won because hasu lost it.
in the last normal straight up game he was outplayed.
myPlums
Profile Joined December 2010
United States10 Posts
October 15 2011 16:29 GMT
#1239
Sase fighting. His control and imagination is much better than Hasu.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
October 15 2011 16:29 GMT
#1240
Nice scouting there at the gold by HasuObs there.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
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