On October 16 2011 01:26 Valikyr wrote:
SaSe: Making PvP interesting since today
SaSe: Making PvP interesting since today
lol more like since the last patch
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Whiteman103
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On October 16 2011 01:26 Valikyr wrote: SaSe: Making PvP interesting since today lol more like since the last patch | ||
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Nolot
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On October 16 2011 01:27 qbs wrote: cheering for Hasu but i fell like korean practice is paying off right now O_o dt rush vs robo expand, its not rocket science bro | ||
laharl23
United States582 Posts
Some games they just look brilliant with all these fancy moves and other times they try to be too fancy and lose. Perfect examples here- game 1 sase trying to be really fancy taking two gold bases and just loses by not having any units, and game 2 has a really good warp prism sentry drop and crushes him. | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:27 Nolot wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2011 01:27 qbs wrote: cheering for Hasu but i fell like korean practice is paying off right now O_o dt rush vs robo expand, its not rocket science bro Rofl, I lol'd. Dt Rush vs Robo expand... hmmm, I wonder who's going to win this. | ||
Toxi78
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On October 16 2011 01:26 ohampatu wrote: I disagree completely on Stephano/Ret/Nerchio... Im not for sure how you could even name them as top. Stephano has only ipl 3. Unless he gets more there's just not enough information to put him as a top player. Ret has the ability to be in that list, but doesn't have the results at all recently, even stephano has more results than ret. (just because he is doing good in pool play really doesn't mean anything). Nerchio doesn't have LAN results. Enough Said. Sen and Idra are the onlly zergs i think we can call 'top' right now, with ret narrowing out the 3 id say. Sen is really the only foreigner zerg who deserves to be top right now, all other foreigner zergs are only just now starting to show good promise again (ret recently increasing, idra recently increasing, stephano making a breakthrough). Instead of talking about top foreigner zerg, since no zerg has really emmerged as the top, i wish we would just all put our hopes on idra/sen/ret/dimaga/stephano and cheer for all instead of comparing so much. None of them are clear winners. At this point in time it doesn't matter who comes out, as long as one or two of them do. and what has sen done in a loooooooooong time? your post is worthless. | ||
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In the south position is Sase While in the north is Hasuobs | ||
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On October 16 2011 01:26 Cyro wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2011 01:25 PhyreHazard wrote: Now this is worthy of being called special tactics Its not special when he does it every game on stream Well, it's not secret. It's still special. Had an analogy to give with respect to Jennifer Love Hewitt's breasts, but I aroused myself | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:26 ohampatu wrote: I disagree completely on Stephano/Ret/Nerchio... Im not for sure how you could even name them as top. Stephano has only ipl 3. Unless he gets more there's just not enough information to put him as a top player. Ret has the ability to be in that list, but doesn't have the results at all recently, even stephano has more results than ret. (just because he is doing good in pool play really doesn't mean anything). Nerchio doesn't have LAN results. Enough Said. Sen and Idra are the onlly zergs i think we can call 'top' right now, with ret narrowing out the 3 id say. Sen is really the only foreigner zerg who deserves to be top right now, all other foreigner zergs are only just now starting to show good promise again (ret recently increasing, idra recently increasing, stephano making a breakthrough). Instead of talking about top foreigner zerg, since no zerg has really emmerged as the top, i wish we would just all put our hopes on idra/sen/ret/dimaga/stephano and cheer for all instead of comparing so much. None of them are clear winners. At this point in time it doesn't matter who comes out, as long as one or two of them do. So you disagree completely yet you name Idra a person who for the last 3/4 months has been playing horribly and only recently shown any kind of good play? That just seems like bias? Also when last did we see Sen play a top level match or tournament? | ||
Vansetsu
United States1452 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:16 tree.hugger wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote: On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote: On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote: 2 things, 1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg. Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent. There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro. You're right on some things, but the fact that you list DIMAGA as having the total package, while dismissing Stephano's micro makes me think you know much less about these players than you're pretending to. DIMAGA's unit control, especially with a large army is appallingly bad, it's far and away his biggest weakness. Stephano's micro is actually quite good. Best three foreign zergs are Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret in some order, and then IdrA, Sen, Sheth, and DIMAGA are right behind, and IdrA may yet have recovered enough to be counted among the top three. But I think the top three is pretty hard to dispute if you watch the individual play. I agree with that I guess. You're correct in that I don't watch enough foreign Zergs, and the ones I listed have always shown some consistently stable or strong play (or just a bit more mainstream play in General). I absolutely did not consider Ret or Nerchio, and while I havn''t seen so much Nerchio (though I know he has been posting results), I kind of dropped the ball on Ret. Also, while I wasn't downplaying Stephano's micro, I wasn't highlighting it much either, as I feel it gets a bit weaker as the games get more mechanically intense, from the games I've seen anyways. If I had to put someone for zergs to par up to micro=mechanics wise, it would probably be Leenock after the games he played with Ganzi. I just feel that what makes Stephano really strong are his decisions and army compositions (which he uses with good micro earlier in the games I've seen), and I think that's a mimic-able trait for players who have better mechanics if they choose. | ||
claash
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in the last normal straight up game he was outplayed. | ||
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