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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1161
On October 16 2011 01:16 McDrew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:09 Tantaburs wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:07 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:05 CryMeAReaper wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2 things,

1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg.

Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent.


There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro.


It's all subjective. My top 3 would prolly be Thorzain, Idra, DIMAGA/Sen/Stephano



Thorzain is in your top 3 for foreign zergs? >.<


He is just that good =P


Thorzain said stephano was the best foreigner zerg


and MKP has said Sase is the best foreigner. Its all subjective based on what someones idea of best is since there really isnt anyone outside of MVP who has the total package (micro/macro/ game sense/multitasking). Stephano has great game sense as does dimaga and nericho which is why they are so good at ZvZ. Idra has probably the best micro and macro of the foreigner zergs but he doenst have the game sense that they do which leads him to losing games he shouldnt. We dont really have a code S foreign terran (maybe thorzain soon) and Huks weakness is also his game sense but in the sense that he cant really tell when he should stop attacking and fall back.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1162
High yields nets you same income with fewer probes. It only nets more income for Terrans. I don't get why people think it magically makes you get more income ;(.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1163
On which stream is Tastosis casting??
sorry for dem one liners
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1164
On October 16 2011 01:20 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot


3:30

Warp gate on the way for both players

Sase has finished his second gas but hasu has only just started his


5:00

More gateways on the way for both players

Sase is expanding
LoCaD
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1634 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1165
HasuObs playing really well.
I give up, I just don't know what to write here.
MasterKush
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom568 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1166
Is anyone reading the live update feed to the right of the stream?
I'm noticing a lot of wins granted to players in the open bracket by "DQ". What would be the cause for so many disqualifications? not showing up to play the games?
"Because, maybe, unlike what every whining kid on the internet thinks, terran actually isn't the easiest race? Shocking, I know." - Liquid`Jinro
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1167
SaSe is breaking pvp...
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ownyaah
Profile Joined September 2011
34 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1168
On October 16 2011 01:16 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2 things,

1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg.

Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent.


There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro.

You're right on some things, but the fact that you list DIMAGA as having the total package, while dismissing Stephano's micro makes me think you know much less about these players than you're pretending to. DIMAGA's unit control, especially with a large army is appallingly bad, it's far and away his biggest weakness. Stephano's micro is actually quite good.

Best three foreign zergs are Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret in some order, and then IdrA, Sen, Sheth, and DIMAGA are right behind, and IdrA may yet have recovered enough to be counted among the top three. But I think the top three is pretty hard to dispute if you watch the individual play.


haha, how many times have u seen nerchio win against a good player, one that is considered top?

at theyre best, idra or stephano is 1st and 2nd, sen or ret is 3rd.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1169
On October 16 2011 01:20 BarbieHsu wrote:
MKP games good?

Good morning fellas. Nice to see you all. Have a beer for breakfast.

Game 2 there was a nuke.
Game 1 he was down 30 supply (3x against 6x)... and he won.

LOL
WriterMaru
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1170
On October 16 2011 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:20 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot


3:30

Warp gate on the way for both players

Sase has finished his second gas but hasu has only just started his


5:00

More gateways on the way for both players

Sase is expanding


5:30

Robo on the way for Sase

Hasu getting more gates
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
October 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#1171
I want to see a CARRIER
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1172
On October 16 2011 01:21 NukeD wrote:
On which stream is Tastosis casting??

Blue stream.
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1173
Okey, fast expand by Sase. Lets see what his korean practice has resulted into
Im better than Stefan
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
October 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1174
On October 16 2011 01:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:20 BarbieHsu wrote:
MKP games good?

Good morning fellas. Nice to see you all. Have a beer for breakfast.

Game 2 there was a nuke.
Game 1 he was down 30 supply (3x against 6x)... and he won.

LOL


A Nuke? Coolio.

Thanks
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1175
On October 16 2011 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:20 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot


3:30

Warp gate on the way for both players

Sase has finished his second gas but hasu has only just started his


5:00

More gateways on the way for both players

Sase is expanding


5:30

Robo on the way for Sase

Hasu getting more gates


6:40

Immortal on the way for Sase

Darkshrine out for Hasuobs as he expands himself
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
October 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1176
wow, rarely you see sneaky stuff like this from hasu
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
October 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#1177
On October 16 2011 01:20 chocopaw wrote:
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
Sua1ty wins 2-0 by DQ over Spanishiwa in OLR1. #MLG

does anybody know what happened?


Spanishiwa had a BYE in round 1 but never showed up to the event (he'd already said he wasn't going) so.. when it came to round 2 "Sua1ty" got a walk over
@followMVT
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#1178
On October 16 2011 01:22 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:20 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot


3:30

Warp gate on the way for both players

Sase has finished his second gas but hasu has only just started his


5:00

More gateways on the way for both players

Sase is expanding


5:30

Robo on the way for Sase

Hasu getting more gates


6:40

Immortal on the way for Sase

Darkshrine out for Hasuobs as he expands himself


7:40

warp prism for Sase he doesn't have an observer out yet

Hasuobs makes his proxy pylon
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#1179
On October 16 2011 01:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:20 BarbieHsu wrote:
MKP games good?

Good morning fellas. Nice to see you all. Have a beer for breakfast.

Game 2 there was a nuke.
Game 1 he was down 30 supply (3x against 6x)... and he won.

LOL

Game 1 was insane. Hwangsin did 1 base colossus, destroyed marinekings army. Had 2 colo, 6 stalkers, 2 zealots, 2 sentries in the production line, whilst MKP only had 4 marauders, 2 marines and scvs. MKP won anyway.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
October 15 2011 16:23 GMT
#1180
On October 16 2011 01:22 Swiv wrote:
wow, rarely you see sneaky stuff like this from hasu

Actually he often hides his buildings somewhere on the map lately.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
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