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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1141
This is Jinro's first time in Champ bracket...wow.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1142
Sase also had very poor multitasking in defending his expansions for all those zealot hit squads.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1143
Hasu <3
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1144
On October 16 2011 01:17 Oboeman wrote:
who needs speedlings when you can do zealot runbys, and have 4 of them take down a nexus.

Zealots do run very fast, especially compared to other toss units.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1145
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 15 2011 16:18 GMT
#1146
On October 16 2011 01:16 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2 things,

1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg.

Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent.


There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro.

You're right on some things, but the fact that you list DIMAGA as having the total package, while dismissing Stephano's micro makes me think you know much less about these players than you're pretending to. DIMAGA's unit control, especially with a large army is appallingly bad, it's far and away his biggest weakness. Stephano's micro is actually quite good.

Best three foreign zergs are Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret in some order, and then IdrA, Sen, Sheth, and DIMAGA are right behind, and IdrA may yet have recovered enough to be counted among the top three. But I think the top three is pretty hard to dispute if you watch the individual play.

OMG someone actually knows what he is talking about. <3
Off-season = best season
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 16:19:22
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1147
Hasu played it well but there's no denying that the style SaSe chose is about 100 times harder to pull off though. Hope he continues to work on that because that was sick some sick play but it looked extremely difficult to pull off.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1148
HasuObs looking like a total Baller.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1149
Love the analogy from Wheat.
SPQR13
Profile Joined June 2011
181 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1150
man, i love hasuobs' excellent control and composure under any circumstances
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1151
Cmon now SaSe! :D
Im better than Stefan
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1152
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1153
He had no observers lol ? he had like 2...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1154
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#1155
On October 16 2011 01:16 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:02 Vansetsu wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:50 Elroi wrote:
On October 16 2011 00:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
2 things,

1)Stephano is not the best foreigner zerg.

Who would you say is better? I think he is the best foreigner and I am almost 100% sure he has got the most potential in terms of talent.


There is absolutely no right answer to this in the foreign scene. There is no one with a total package game right now. The three closest answers are Dimaga, Idra, and Sen. Stephano has been showing results, but he certainly has big holes in his total game. Fortunately for him so far, the things he is doing good is making up for the things he doesn't have down perfect. If you can't tell, his big weakness are his late game mechanics. His strong points are his decision making/early mid game and decent micro.

You're right on some things, but the fact that you list DIMAGA as having the total package, while dismissing Stephano's micro makes me think you know much less about these players than you're pretending to. DIMAGA's unit control, especially with a large army is appallingly bad, it's far and away his biggest weakness. Stephano's micro is actually quite good.

Best three foreign zergs are Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret in some order, and then IdrA, Sen, Sheth, and DIMAGA are right behind, and IdrA may yet have recovered enough to be counted among the top three. But I think the top three is pretty hard to dispute if you watch the individual play.


I agree with Stephano and Ret (even though Ret hasn't shown any recent tourney wins), but Nerchio plays in too few LANs and seems to choke in them. I'd put IdrA there instead, until Nerchio shows us that he's able to win major international LANs.
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1156
On October 16 2011 01:19 Valikyr wrote:
Hasu played it well but there's no denying that the style SaSe chose is about 100 times harder to pull off though. Hope he continues to work on that because that was sick some sick play but it looked extremely difficult to pull off.


I agree
Im better than Stefan
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1157
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
Sua1ty wins 2-0 by DQ over Spanishiwa in OLR1. #MLG

does anybody know what happened?
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1158
On October 16 2011 01:16 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:15 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
How did he spend the whole game with a high yield and never go ahead in supply...

By using your advantage to take more bases instead of making units!(not to mention not securing them so they constantly got destroyed by zealots)

hasuobs is one of the best makro toss imo. btw
best SC2 game of aaaaaaall time: vibe vs avilo (don't miss the end!!): https://youtu.be/mygH92WzKV4
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1159
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 01:19 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:18 Drazerk wrote:
On October 16 2011 01:17 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Shakuras Plateau

In the top left corner is Sase

While in the top right corner is Hasuobs


1:40

Both players taking their gateways and moving out to scout


2:20


Both players have finished their gas now


3:00

Cyber core on the way for both players

Sase making a zealot


3:30

Warp gate on the way for both players

Sase has finished his second gas but hasu has only just started his
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
October 15 2011 16:20 GMT
#1160
MKP games good?

Good morning fellas. Nice to see you all. Have a beer for breakfast.
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