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On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ.
Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly.
It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's.
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On October 16 2011 19:29 Perseverance wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:26 Deckkie wrote:On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Stephano still has to beat Kiwikaki, boxer and Sase. That are not 3 players to easily walk over. Also Stephano said that he plays bad when he needs to play to many games in a row. So lets not run ahead of schedual I think Stephano can beat those players pretty easily...but I REALLY hope Idra beats him if it comes down to it.
I think he will beat Kiwikaki, I will never count out Boxer and Sase is such a good player. He always turns heads when playing tournaments.
But when it comes to it, Stephano fighitng!!!!
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On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's.
I'm personally pretty sure Stephano would beat IdrA in a BO3 ZvZ, but I'm much more exited about a potential Stephano vs SaSe atm. Two rising stars that are probably my two favourite players in this entire tournament. Only downside is that one of them would have to be eliminated if they met eachother :/
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On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's.
Idra's ZvZ win rate is 71.11% with 64-26 score, while Stephano's ~65%. I think those stats are more important than that he lost vs. Nerchio.
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On October 16 2011 19:19 Corrik wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 17:47 RogerShah wrote:On October 16 2011 17:40 scDeluX wrote:
poor incontrol He went 0-10 @ MLG Raleigh so 1-10 this MLG is quiet an improvement. Actually not really. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he won a loser bracket match at Raleigh didn't he? Thus, he has regressed even further which seems impossible to fathom.
At least he's doing better than everyone who couldn't make it out of the open bracket.
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On October 16 2011 19:35 Alpina wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's. Idra's ZvZ win rate is 71.11% with 64-26 score, while Stephano's ~65%. I think those stats are more important than that he lost vs. Nerchio.
Aside from wins against Revival (Stephano did beat him in the ipl 3 qualifier) and sheth(who also got soundly beaten by Stephano), that list of ZvZ isn't particulary strong too brag about.
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On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing
A code b korean, might I add that has abysmal ZvZ by looking at TLPD stats.
And IdrA said that he hates latency and is very picky about it, if I recall, Nerchio also complains a lot about lag when he plays? Ling/bling battles in latency can't be all that great. Never the less, Steph and IdrA are definitely evenly matched in ZvZ today, imo.
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On October 16 2011 19:33 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's. I'm personally pretty sure Stephano would beat IdrA in a BO3 ZvZ, but I'm much more exited about a potential Stephano vs SaSe atm. Two rising stars that are probably my two favourite players in this entire tournament. Only downside is that one of them would have to be eliminated if they met eachother :/
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On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's.
IdrA's macro better than Stephano's?
Have you ever seen Stephano play?
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MKP winning with classic style! What a great comeback! I'm officially a fan.
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Polt needs to beat sheth and haypro. Probably his biggest challenge to reaching the finals!
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Glad to se Hayder doing decent for a change, even though he got one of the easiest groups.
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On October 16 2011 19:59 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 19:30 massivez wrote:On October 16 2011 19:14 Alpina wrote:On October 16 2011 19:10 CoR wrote:On October 16 2011 17:15 nick1689 wrote:On October 16 2011 17:14 daytrippers wrote:
I searched a few threads but couldnt find the hype for the potential IdrA vs Stephano matchup. Even if you dudes have already, can we go over how epic it will be? Idra would probably win, imo his ZvZ is more streamlined never read that much wrong in one sentences stephano who 4-0 koreans in touranments, which best mu is zvz and who destroys even nerchio etc (who beat idra 3-0 always) ... who can you say idra will win it without laughing Man ZvZ can be lost in one single mistake. Even if you think Stephano is favoured, idra can easily win the series.. Btw, as far as I remember Stephano at IPL3 said that ZvZ is his worst MU, while idra is very good at ZvZ. Well idra got destroyed in IPL 2 by Nerchio (3-0 i think), and also lost 2-0 against nerchio in 1 of the TL opens. Just saying Idra's zvz hasn't been top notch since his GSL adventures. Also in recent matches, Stephano goes pretty evenly against Nerchio(50-50). Not too mention he did beat both violet (2-1) and Lucky (4-0) pretty convincingly. It might be Idra's macro is slightly better then Stephano's, i still regard Stephano's decision making and unit control higher then Idra's. IdrA's macro better than Stephano's? Have you ever seen Stephano play?
Im just saying this because Idra's macro is what he's known for. Im not saying Stephano's macro is bad.
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I hope Idra goes on mad tilt and Boxer miraculously defeats him in an extended series.
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I just saw MKP vs. Idra series at 4 AM this morning, and I'm so glad I didn't spoil the results for myself while I was working on a night shift. My hands were going up when Idra typed GG on the third game. Going to value those upgrades a lot more and get them faster :D
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The top 16 seeds of the championship bracket have all trained in Korea at varying capacities. Korea is the place to be I suppose.
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On October 16 2011 20:22 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I hope Idra goes on mad tilt and Boxer miraculously defeats him in an extended series.
Idra fighting!
I will always root for the American hope!
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MKP, Bomber, Puma, Boxer, Polt, Rain, TheSTC
How many Korean Terran's can get taken out before the final, because it's the best chance foreigners have for a foreign winner imo.
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On October 16 2011 13:08 CKHound wrote:
No Guessing Here.
1. Huk
2. July
3. Idra
Dont care about bomber or any of those, overated like most koreans, i actually respect puma and july, feel july will do really well tomorrow as he began to do today. But huk is better than any of the koreans and playing anywheres near his normal level he will win easy.
i lol'ed^^ is this a joke? July is nowhere near his game for months, IdrA is neither (though he's better again in the last couple of weeks). HuK is the only one of those guys who could do Top5..
Bomber andTheStC will get the top spots, with maybe Polt, Stephano and PuMa owning their way through the bracket i see PuMa as the weakest of these three.
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On October 16 2011 22:56 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 13:08 CKHound wrote:
No Guessing Here.
1. Huk
2. July
3. Idra
Dont care about bomber or any of those, overated like most koreans, i actually respect puma and july, feel july will do really well tomorrow as he began to do today. But huk is better than any of the koreans and playing anywheres near his normal level he will win easy. i lol'ed^^ is this a joke? July is nowhere near his game for months, IdrA is neither (though he's better again in the last couple of weeks). HuK is the only one of those guys who could do Top5.. Bomber andTheStC will get the top spots, with maybe Polt, Stephano and PuMa owning their way through the bracket i see PuMa as the weakest of these three.
Stephano just lost to boxer.My bad -wrong thread.
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