On October 16 2011 11:30 Clank wrote:
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so by that logic rain is now a foreigner? Since he now lives and trains in the US? Do dirk nowitski, tony parker, pau gasol, etc. become american when they go to the NBA?

If he stays in the US for long enough, yes.

I'm not familiar with basketball, sorry. In football there is a clear distinction made between, for example, South American players who stay in the local leagues vs those who go to Europe. There's no similar terminology though.

???... South American soccer players will always be South American no matter how long they stay in Europe. It's just the consensus that a player's true explosion is found in the best level, in soccer's case, that's european leagues. But in soccer a player never "becomes european", unless he actually changes nationalities. Or maybe I just misread you.

BTW, I think this is one of the silliest discussions in all of TL. Why would a player change nationalities LOL. He's getting the best training, but he's still representing his home country. It seems like the inverse situation is consensus in SC, but it seems silly to me.

that's not true even though most likely they will retain the style of where they learned football so people keep referring to that. actually football pros get second and third citicenships all the time for playing in countries long enough! (and/or special ones to be able to play for national teams). it's just semantics again at this point as in that context it never refers to actual nationality youÄ're of course right there.
but even for players like messi he's a 'spanish' player now because he played at barca for the most significant time so yeah

Messi could've played for spain, but he choose argentina. Because he feels like he belongs in argentina. The country sees him as an argentine. So he is argentine, despite what people say.

countryman
sure

but the flavo(u)r of his play, i'd say he's more considered european
of course us europeans would agree.
i guess at that point like with huk everybody just finds some kind of 'loophole' to integrate a great player into his sphere

No countryman, PLAYER. He considers himself a argentine football player, that's why he plays for argentina national squad.

is that the catch 22 thing? are we at the point where it started with HuK? i'd think so

nobody's denying that

it's a question of flavor/system

but it's down to semantics again

On October 16 2011 11:50 yawnoC wrote:
Stop arguing semantics and just watch the games already -.-;

Tyler and Slush GOGO!

i'm a linguist how dare you tell me to not argue semantics ;P

I got a pretty good guess why he can dare :p, something to do with the little text in white up top.

i'm still intrigued by that, i don't have anything. is my browser preventing me to be yelled at by mods? ^_^

GOD the stream just fucked up my speakers, anyone else?!

There's a white text? I don't see anything.

Antithesis

Germany1213 Posts

October 16 2011 03:04 GMT

#9626

Slush, I don't know how to assess him at all...

The statistics says he's kinda average, but these games looked really nice. I'd like to see more of him in general.

ArchHydra

8 Posts

October 16 2011 03:04 GMT

#9627

Husky and Day 9 are such a great casting duo.

InvalidID

United States1050 Posts

October 16 2011 03:04 GMT

#9628

On October 16 2011 11:55 FatAss wrote:

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European Player of The Year = Best Player of the Year (Worldwide)

David Beckham plays for the LA Galaxy. Thereby USA player of the year is the best player of the year worldwide. This is because professional soccer in the USA is the biggest in the world.

BuddhaMonk

781 Posts

October 16 2011 03:04 GMT

#9629

On October 16 2011 11:56 minhbq299 wrote:
I just noticed that Inori is bad, he only win in PvP....

Inori took out aLive 2-0 in open bracket.

Shurayuki

Germany2665 Posts

October 16 2011 03:04 GMT

#9630

somehow i feel bad leaving a thread without thanking the OP streamers and LRers
damn SC2 is a weird place to be

see you in 11 hours i guess?

poorcloud

Singapore2748 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9631

On October 16 2011 12:03 fenixauriga wrote:
Damn why did Inori have to knock out White-Ra onlt to lose in the next round : / Been a pretty awesome day of starcraft overall though

To be fair, he got unlucky the first game. The 2nd game was dual sight, just ridiculous to deal with as protoss against zerg.

OMGKEI

Australia590 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9632

On October 16 2011 12:04 Engore wrote:
MLGLee via twitter
"No sotg

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

ChuCky.Ca

Canada2497 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9633

On October 16 2011 12:04 Antithesis wrote:
Slush, I don't know how to assess him at all...

The statistics says he's kinda average, but these games looked really nice. I'd like to see more of him in general.

Hes always average then comes MLG and he does great lol

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9634

Slush plays his own style, which means that he can own players that he "shouldn't" own because his style counters theirs, and then lose to players he "shouldn't" lose to because their style counters his.

xBillehx

United States1289 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9635

Bleh. Gotta stay up a few hours for NaDa playing in WCG on OGN, was hoping there'd be something to fill the time with. No SotG.</3

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9636

On October 16 2011 12:02 Angelbelow wrote:

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how do you know this? does he even play anymore?

He won the last ESV Korean Weekly and beat some great players convincingly.

Rebs

Pakistan10726 Posts

October 16 2011 03:05 GMT

#9637

hes shown an ability to beat good players in clutch situations. Hes really the only one of the lot that people often claim shudnt be seeded into pool play who actually doesnt deserve the crap they get. Just needs to get a bit consistent or solid whatever you want to call it.

Theeakoz

United States1114 Posts

October 16 2011 03:06 GMT

#9638

Beware community! Slush is about to bloom...

MVTaylor

United Kingdom2893 Posts

October 16 2011 03:06 GMT

#9639

On October 16 2011 12:04 InvalidID wrote:

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David Beckham plays for the LA Galaxy. Thereby USA player of the year is the best player of the year worldwide. This is because professional soccer in the USA is the biggest in the world.

Must... not... feed... the... troll

hitpoint

United States1511 Posts

October 16 2011 03:06 GMT

#9640

Yea it's weird, nobody talks about him but then he places well in every MLG and takes games off Koreans. Most underrated player in all of SC2 imo - people literally never talk about him as a factor.