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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8761
IdrA needs to learn to respect those 3/3 Marines, he always loses so many Mutas by getting too aggressive with them.
-Duderino-
Profile Joined July 2011
United States80 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8762
MKP so godly. for those haters yes idra had mkp on the ropes but he through away so many lings and mutas while harrasing and the reason mkp was behind in supply is because he invested so much into upgrades. If you invest 500 min and gas into 3/3 ups yes your gonna be behind until they kick in
The Dude abides.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8763
MILKIS <3
o choro é livre
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8764
I'm an idra fan, but seriously lack of upgrades lost Idra the game. He saw the upgrades on the units and it's his fault for not upgrading.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8765
HUK WON HIS GROUP!!!!
Never say die
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8766
Idra should have made upgrades but he had to make upgrades for 2 types of units not just one like marine king.
Infestors would not have won him the game, to be honest I know how marine king won. But he looked completely outplayed. Anyone who thinks he is sick because of this game is being foolish. He is a great player but this game hardly showed that.

Also damn those marines did completely look imbalanced when each had a medivac. Again I understand what happened but the way the fight actually looked... damn it was like idra was fighting ultras that could attack air units.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8767
On October 16 2011 10:36 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:33 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 soupchicken wrote:
Idra should've teched. He needed infestors. He need hive tech. Also 3/3 marines with enough medivacs can take out infinity supply.

Infestors I think are the biggest thing. Fungaling the SCVs and marines would've won it for him for sure.


at the end, every unit had a personal medivac so all fungal does is negate medivacs. If he was sniping medivacs, fungal would be awesome.



that also means marines cant micro banelings the difference it makes is massive.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#8768
Flying medics are pretty good...

The pool has both IdrA and MKP as 4-1, 9 wins 3 losses, aren't they TIED? Why are they saying MKP gets 1st place?
:)
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8769
On October 16 2011 10:36 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:35 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote:
Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.


Why, were you not entertained by that game?

Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?

Best part is the foreign community brought MKP over in the first place.

People keep saying 'personality' or whatever, but tbh a lot of the foreigners aren't known for their charisma either.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8770
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.
zex66
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada651 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8771
On October 16 2011 10:35 morpheus2480 wrote:
wow.... while doing the muta harass, if idra goes infestors instead of suiciding zerglings all day into the front of MKP's base, that would've been over ....

Right?


TBH at that last fight idra kind of picked a bad spot to fight. Had he left MKP get closer to his base he could've completely cut off reinforcements and killed all of the medivacs. It would've been instant GG but he fought at the middle rock which allowed his reinforcement marines to reach the medivacs.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8772
On October 16 2011 10:37 synapse wrote:
Flying medics are pretty good...

The pool has both IdrA and MKP as 4-1, 9 wins 3 losses, aren't they TIED? Why are they saying MKP gets 1st place?


Head to Head score is used before Map Score
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8773
On October 16 2011 10:36 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:35 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote:
Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.


Why, were you not entertained by that game?

Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?

Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8774
I want to like idra but his infantile fans make it really hard.
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8775
On October 16 2011 10:37 Coutcha wrote:
god i want lurker back -_-


Exactly what I was thinking.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:38:53
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8776
On October 16 2011 10:37 Qikz wrote:
I'm an idra fan, but seriously lack of upgrades lost Idra the game. He saw the upgrades on the units and it's his fault for not upgrading.


Its not just the upgrades, i think he needed 4 infestors, which he normally has.. maybe he was rushing for hive too quickly. either way well played by MKP.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8777
On October 16 2011 10:37 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:34 mordk wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:32 Roggay wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:32 fuzzy_panda wrote:
OMFFFGGGGGG!!!!! BEAUTIFUL GAME FROM MKP!!! HOLY SHIT the nerd chills|!!

Beautiful?.... banking minerals and macroing terribly is the way to go...


The lack of macro and production was offset by the huge advantage in upgrades, a small amount of marines can hold the line against superior mutalisk numbers if upgrades are early enough, in this case, MKP had 3-3 in 15 min while mutas were 1-0.

Does it make it a beautiful game from MKP? certainly not. The hard part is to macro decently, not getting 3/3, even I can tech to 3/3.

Decent micro too. Even 3-3 marines suck against banelings.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8778
On October 16 2011 10:37 Ghoststrikes wrote:
HUK WON HIS GROUP!!!!

And MKP will kill him easily !! :D
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8779
On October 16 2011 10:37 synapse wrote:
Flying medics are pretty good...

The pool has both IdrA and MKP as 4-1, 9 wins 3 losses, aren't they TIED? Why are they saying MKP gets 1st place?


Head to head. He beat IdrA.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:39:54
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#8780
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.


he won because Idra handed him the perfect engagement on a platter. Quite simply.

He had barely enough to win, but barely enough can still be enough. If Idra had focus fired with his 16 mutas he would have one shot the marines one after another, instead he let them spread fire and the medivacs outhealed him.

Note on the flipside MK had nearly perfect micro, his baneling targeting is absurdly good, which makes him such a hard player to play against. Still make no mistake if Idra had built 2 infestors or pulled back from that battle he would have won the game.
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