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Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
October 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#601
1/1/1-scvpull, this MU can be so exciting.

Hurpdurp.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
October 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#602
This is what Puma does in every recent PvT, just watch some of his games vs lesser known players i.e Cruncher

He 1-1-1's the first game then Cloak 1-1-1's on the map that is the most favored for regular 1-1-1, i.e Dual sight and Xel'Naga

If you think the 1-1-1 on Shakuras was bullshit then imagine it on Xel'Naga, how do you even stop that?

Sase took a risk here, it didn't work.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
October 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#603
On October 16 2011 07:27 BuddhaMonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:26 n00b3rt wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Jakkerr wrote:
I'm not gonna cry because I know what will happen.

But come on blizzard is this really the game we wanna play?

If Sase had gone dt-s, and Puma didn't have orbitals and turrets for some reason, would that be imbalanced too ? :D


What Terran doesn't get an orbital? Stop being silly.

Well, what protoss doesn't get cannons/obs at the cloak banshee timing ? Except for those proxy-gating and 4-gating that would force cloak cancel ??
Yeah, whatever
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
October 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#604
On October 16 2011 07:26 n00b3rt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:25 Jakkerr wrote:
I'm not gonna cry because I know what will happen.

But come on blizzard is this really the game we wanna play?

If Sase had gone dt-s, and Puma didn't have orbitals and turrets for some reason, would that be imbalanced too ? :D

No problem he since he's walled in and build ravens from the starport with tech-lab.
Are people actually comparing DT with clack Banshees? LMAO
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
October 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#605
On October 16 2011 07:26 Oreo7 wrote:
terrible series, I don't think Puma is actually that good tvp, he just 1/1/1s. Terrible.


Because he only went 1-1-1 against MC at NASL, JYP at Guangzhou, and HerO and White-Ra at IPL, right? /facepalm
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#606
DJWheat: Some 1-1-1s come WITHOUT cloak. Actually, many do. Sase tried his best to play absolutely safe last game by getting a faster observer. This game, he took a gamble. It wasn't a silly mistake, it was a calculated decision.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
October 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#607
On October 16 2011 07:28 ReachTheSky wrote:
Wow Sase looked bad vs puma. All the wrong responses to 1-1-1 ;(
I'm hoping that SaSe just didn't want to reveal his all smash vs 1-1-1 until the champ bracket


He would have been in a better position winning his group than saving builds for the bracket.
Loki57
Profile Joined February 2011
United States292 Posts
October 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#608
People in here saying that PuMa really has bad TvP and that he just 1/1/1's all the time makes me lol pretty hard.
"Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare."
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#609
On October 16 2011 07:24 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:21 rareh wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:19 Toadvine wrote:
I don't even especially mind. Let PuMa get his easy wins while he still can, his poor mechanics and gimmicky play will catch up with him once the 1/1/1 gets patched. For the time being, he'll continue winning until he hits a good T or Z, just like in most tournaments he enters.


erm nasl... even without 1-1-1 he is one of the best terrans in korea.


NASL was like 4 months ago. Ever since that time, he lost every time the moment he met a Code S Terran or Zerg. Lost to Coca and Nada at MLG, then to MVP and Coca at the MLG Invitational, to MMA at IPL3, and even to Idra at IEM Guangzhou. If you put him in Code S right now, he'd go 1-2 in his group or fall to the Up/Down matches.

"best terran in korea" my ass.


As if losing to MVP, Nada or MMA, three of the ultra top terrans means your TvP sucks when you actually didn't list a single protoss.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
October 15 2011 22:29 GMT
#610
Man blizzard really has to do someting about 111
makk
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
October 15 2011 22:30 GMT
#611
Well it's just as boring to watch as scv all ins in Open Season 3
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
October 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#612
On October 16 2011 07:29 Eee wrote:
Man blizzard really has to do someting about 111


they are too stupid to realize why its so powerful.

They act as if 1 immortal range is going to help, the problem is there are so many marines and its near impossible to get enough splash damage out to deal with them when tanks/banshee kill all gateway units and if you rush to colluses you have no gas for stalkers so the banshees rip them apart.

don't know what the proper response is if you put down a nexus.
Krimineel
Profile Joined October 2011
France21 Posts
October 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#613
On October 16 2011 07:28 branflakes14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:26 Krimineel wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Krimineel wrote:
Sase so bad it istn even funny anymore



Id love to see you beating Puma in PvT at MLG, are you volunteering?


Lol comments like this are so bullshit..

Even if 1-1-1 is OP Sase completly failed any build.. it wasn't even close, make no obs when cloak banshee is in base? Can't blame 1-1-1 for that moron


Whether or not a Terran gets cloak is a coin flip. Puma didn't get it in the first game but did in the 2nd. Sase had no way of knowing in either game, and getting an Observer is a surprisingly big investment in a tight situation like that. This all comes back to that whole scouting a Terran issue.



Yeah okay, but after he comes in your base and CLOAKS and still build no observer that isn't Pumas fault..

And I hope the next time you ladder every terran 1-1-1's you just cause you're such a crybaby

User was banned for this post.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
October 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#614
On October 16 2011 07:28 Dommk wrote:
This is what Puma does in every recent PvT, just watch some of his games vs lesser known players i.e Cruncher

He 1-1-1's the first game then Cloak 1-1-1's on the map that is the most favored for regular 1-1-1, i.e Dual sight and Xel'Naga

If you think the 1-1-1 on Shakuras was bullshit then imagine it on Xel'Naga, how do you even stop that?

Sase took a risk here, it didn't work.

In another situation I would agree with you, 1-1-1 still needs nerfing despite me being terran xD. However :
Teching to collossi when you've already seen a 1-1-1 coming and you are on 2base is not a risk. Not making an observer after seeing a cloak banshee is not a risk. It's what would have happened if you didn't scout them and decided to risk, and had the bad luck. In this case, it was just abysmal decision making.
Yeah, whatever
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
October 15 2011 22:31 GMT
#615
On October 16 2011 07:26 n00b3rt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:25 Jakkerr wrote:
I'm not gonna cry because I know what will happen.

But come on blizzard is this really the game we wanna play?

If Sase had gone dt-s, and Puma didn't have orbitals and turrets for some reason, would that be imbalanced too ? :D

Nah, coz Puma would have a Raven from his starport anyway
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 22:32:33
October 15 2011 22:32 GMT
#616
On October 16 2011 07:28 branflakes14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:26 Krimineel wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Krimineel wrote:
Sase so bad it istn even funny anymore



Id love to see you beating Puma in PvT at MLG, are you volunteering?


Lol comments like this are so bullshit..

Even if 1-1-1 is OP Sase completly failed any build.. it wasn't even close, make no obs when cloak banshee is in base? Can't blame 1-1-1 for that moron


Whether or not a Terran gets cloak is a coin flip. Puma didn't get it in the first game but did in the 2nd. Sase had no way of knowing in either game, and getting an Observer is a surprisingly big investment in a tight situation like that. This all comes back to that whole scouting a Terran issue.



SaSe built a robo ENTIRELY for obsevers at that point... but he warped in 1 stalker too many and didnt have the gas at the right timing... a slight macro mistake that cost him the whole game
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
October 15 2011 22:32 GMT
#617
On October 16 2011 07:24 Twisting wrote:
And then people wonder why nobody likes PuMa


pros play for money or am i wrong? the more succesful he plays, the more he gets. i would do the same if i were him.
best SC2 game of aaaaaaall time: vibe vs avilo (don't miss the end!!): https://youtu.be/mygH92WzKV4
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 15 2011 22:32 GMT
#618
Puma's working on having as few fans as possible.
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
October 15 2011 22:33 GMT
#619
No he just probably doesn't care about "fans" who don't appreciate him because of the builds he does
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
October 15 2011 22:33 GMT
#620
On October 16 2011 07:31 Krimineel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 07:28 branflakes14 wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:26 Krimineel wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On October 16 2011 07:25 Krimineel wrote:
Sase so bad it istn even funny anymore



Id love to see you beating Puma in PvT at MLG, are you volunteering?


Lol comments like this are so bullshit..

Even if 1-1-1 is OP Sase completly failed any build.. it wasn't even close, make no obs when cloak banshee is in base? Can't blame 1-1-1 for that moron


Whether or not a Terran gets cloak is a coin flip. Puma didn't get it in the first game but did in the 2nd. Sase had no way of knowing in either game, and getting an Observer is a surprisingly big investment in a tight situation like that. This all comes back to that whole scouting a Terran issue.



Yeah okay, but after he comes in your base and CLOAKS and still build no observer that isn't Pumas fault..

And I hope the next time you ladder every terran 1-1-1's you just cause you're such a crybaby


The game was over even if he had built an observer. He just used all his warpgate cooldowns, he then has to run all his probes around until he has the observer out and enough Stalkers to defend just after investing in an expansion...There is almost a garunteed loss of around 5+ Probes and a ton of lost mining time.

Even with the observer the game was already over, Sase couldn't break up Puma's ramp nor defend the banshee
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