On October 10 2011 12:20 Steel wrote:
Violet and TheStC too... he had a damn difficult path.
Violet and TheStC too... he had a damn difficult path.
Violet is terrible for a Code S Zerg. TheStC is very stylistic and not a macro terran.
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17921
On October 10 2011 12:20 Steel wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:18 GinDo wrote: On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote: On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament... haters gonna hate. I know. People these days. -_- Violet and TheStC too... he had a damn difficult path. Violet is terrible for a Code S Zerg. TheStC is very stylistic and not a macro terran. | ||
adeezy
United States1428 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17922
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17923
On October 10 2011 12:20 yawnoC wrote: WAIT A MINUTE ZvZ is stephanos WORST!? match up according to him... I call bullshit. ... Still upset he didn't let his hair down just as an extra FU to slasher :D Everyone said that his PvZ was lacking as well. It looked damn well unbeatable to me... | ||
flojito
136 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17924
On October 10 2011 12:19 MuseMike wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:17 ClysmiC wrote: On October 10 2011 12:14 flojito wrote: On October 10 2011 12:10 msjakofsky wrote: On October 10 2011 12:06 Daniel C wrote: On October 10 2011 12:04 msjakofsky wrote: On October 10 2011 12:02 Daniel C wrote: On October 10 2011 12:00 msjakofsky wrote: On October 10 2011 11:58 Daniel C wrote: On October 10 2011 11:56 ODieN wrote: [quote] False, "3-0" isn't a coinflip regardless who's winning, 1-1/2-2/3-3 would be coinflips. Well, if it was truly a coinflip there would still be a 25% total chance of getting 3-0 or 0-3, so... 12,5% chance for a 3-0 if it's completely random and each player has an 50% to counter the other's build Hence 25% for 3-0 or 0-3 ![]() nope... 12,5% for one player winning 3-0, it's not counted separately Yup, so there's 25% chance of either 3-0 or 0-3. do you really not understand? there is 50% chance that 1 player will counter the other in 1 match in 1 match if we flip the coins, there is 25% chance that they'll be both heads, 25% both tails and 50% for heads-tails- that includes both cases you're mentioning. with the same logic it's 50%*50%*50% in three matches, all possible outcomes included that's 12,5% not 25% You are completely misunderstanding the other guy's point. He is saying that, if we assume that a ZvZ really is a coinflip, there is 25% chance that one of the two players will be up 3-0 after three games. This is 100% true. Here is a more concrete example. Suppose that we say that the games between Lucky and Stephano were just coinflips (I know they weren't and Lucky got outplayed, but just assume that for now). Then there is a 12.5% chance that Stephano wins the first 3 games, and a 12.5% chance that Lucky wins the first 3 games. That means there is a 12.5% + 12.5% = 25% chance that one of the two will be up 3-0. Correct. Think of it like this: Bo1 has 100% chance of someone winning 1-0 Bo3 has 50% chance of someone winning 2-0 Bo5 has 25% chance of someone winning 3-0 The games are not independent. After losing a game or two a player may just play worse, therefore increasing the chances of a shutout. Yeah, but we're not taking things like that into account. We were just saying that if ZvZ truly is a coinflip (i.e. each player has exactly a 50% chance of winning each game) then you'd expect a 3-0 25% of the time. Obviously it is never a true coinflip (see Nestea's 24-2 record in ZvZ). | ||
Papulatus
United States669 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17925
On October 10 2011 12:18 Ruscour wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:17 hugman wrote: On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Beating the people who knocked out IdrA, Huk, MC, Ret, Ryung and MMA. Sounds like an "easy" path. If it was so easy maybe those players would've advanced... from left to right: foreigner, slumping half/half, code B, foreigner, beaten by Lucky, beaten by Lucky, and we all saw Lucky's ZvZ, plus it was BO wins half the games he's good, no-one's arguing that, he's not the next bonjwa Its so funny how quick people are to take the credit away from Stephano just because he hasn't had a tournament win of this size yet. And calling HuK slumping half/half? Really? He's Code S... | ||
Grettin
42381 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17926
On October 10 2011 12:20 Ownos wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:15 Grettin wrote: On October 10 2011 12:14 Ownos wrote: Stephano takes IPL3 with 10+ Koreans attending. Lucky goes further then he ever expected and surprised so many people. Inori upsets and shows amazing PvP. Both going farther than they thought. WhiteRa warp prism special tactics. Terran too good. And Justin Wong takes 2 championships at Devastation. ![]() ESPORTS You are seriously forgetting TheStC? He did better than any expected too. :p Heyheyhey I can't remember all the epic story lines going on in this tournament, ok? ![]() I forgive you, but only this time. ![]() ggwp Stephano. | ||
Toads
Canada1795 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17927
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17928
IPL has my stamp of approval | ||
domane
Canada1606 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17929
On October 10 2011 12:09 Lasbike wrote: What Stephano did during all the IPL season 3 (3 months) Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing (Code S) Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle (Code S) Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA (Code S) Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet (Code A) Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky (Code A) | ||
Ruscour
5233 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17930
On October 10 2011 12:20 Grapesludge wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:17 Ruscour wrote: On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote: On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament... haters gonna hate. online means nothing, sorry Why are you so ignorant? Ignorant of what, exactly? | ||
mcleod
Canada350 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17931
On October 10 2011 12:19 Elroi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:09 ninjamyst wrote: On October 10 2011 12:08 EnderCraft wrote: On October 10 2011 12:06 ninjamyst wrote: I am so sad that Stephano won. He seems like another bm IdrA in the making. Um... How??? Where has he showed BM? Just. Just. No. His answers to panel questions. His interviews. His "whatever, i dont care" attitude. He just gives me that "i am too good to care" vibe. This is in no way comparable to the bitching and the insulting of other players by Idra. When the interviewer asked Stephano why he says "gratz" when he loses, he said that it was because he is himself good and if "some one is better than him, he wants to congratulate him". That is an awesome attitude. I don't like the fact that Stephano is taking pride in not practicing much though... amazing player no doubt but i gotta agree this guy needs an attitude adjustment david asks him how he feels, and he responds "you already asked me that question" wtf, u just won 30k thanks to this guy and thats how you respond | ||
Shunjal
United States482 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17932
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17933
On October 10 2011 12:17 hugman wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Beating the people who knocked out IdrA, Huk, MC, Ret, Ryung and MMA. Sounds like an "easy" path. If it was so easy maybe those players would've advanced... Cool logic. Beating someone that beat someone else =/= beating said person. It simply does not work like that. | ||
duk3
United States807 Posts
October 10 2011 03:21 GMT
#17934
Can't wait to see how the IPL4 goes! | ||
Laids
United Kingdom596 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17935
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17936
Until you get to Roaches You also can't overdrone to much or you could die Stephano just out microed out macroed out played Lucky Its that Simple | ||
Clank
United States548 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17937
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17938
On October 10 2011 12:21 Papulatus wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:18 Ruscour wrote: On October 10 2011 12:17 hugman wrote: On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Beating the people who knocked out IdrA, Huk, MC, Ret, Ryung and MMA. Sounds like an "easy" path. If it was so easy maybe those players would've advanced... from left to right: foreigner, slumping half/half, code B, foreigner, beaten by Lucky, beaten by Lucky, and we all saw Lucky's ZvZ, plus it was BO wins half the games he's good, no-one's arguing that, he's not the next bonjwa Its so funny how quick people are to take the credit away from Stephano just because he hasn't had a tournament win of this size yet. And calling HuK slumping half/half? Really? He's Code S... did you watch his games? once you're in Code S it's not hard to stay there, I meant half/half as in half korean half foreigner ![]() | ||
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17939
On October 10 2011 12:21 CosmicSpiral wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:20 Steel wrote: On October 10 2011 12:18 GinDo wrote: On October 10 2011 12:16 MyNameIsAlex wrote: On October 10 2011 12:15 Hall0wed wrote: Boy did Stephano ever get some help from the bracket. He had by far the easiest path, wow. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky yeah he only beat MKP, Socke, Revival, Puzzle, MMA and Boxer to get into the tournament... haters gonna hate. I know. People these days. -_- Violet and TheStC too... he had a damn difficult path. Violet is terrible for a Code S Zerg. TheStC is very stylistic and not a macro terran. Violet isn't a Code S Zerg. He is Code B | ||
trucane
United States553 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#17940
On October 10 2011 12:20 Ruscour wrote: Show nested quote + On October 10 2011 12:20 cyclone25 wrote: Stephano has flawless play, best player in the world by far (maybe Mvp is close to him). ![]() Oh the irony considering your last few posts... | ||
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